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[00:00:00] Yeah, we're separate. But this is Doggie Diamonds. Make sure you subscribe like share leave a comment. Um, I'm here really quick Let me just give you a quick introduction. There's one to make sure that you with me y'all with me. All right. Let's go to studio. I got a guest there who I gotten
[00:00:30] You know, I'm feeling good. I just want to say one thing I always wanted to say this shit to you in your face. It ain't shit change.
[00:00:38] Just a no. Oh my yo, everything's still glorious. We still got warriors still be the victorious. Yo, that's guys team man. And when I was doing that verse, can I share something with you?
[00:00:51] I never really told many people about me. The whole verse in that song was me saying to
[00:01:01] I kind of every time I did a hit song, I always was like, I want to address puff and I was like, it ain't shit change.
[00:01:08] Sister notorious. See everything's still glorious. We still got warriors still be the victorious. See us a lot of them but it's more of us.
[00:01:19] Still got stacks of blood. Raps the flow. Still didn't cast a note pack the flow. That's for show. Bodies the pop.
[00:01:28] Drinks to rock. Play the background. Hannah my glass. Holded my job. Money to get. See, I was bad boy.
[00:01:36] Hmm. So, so, so that pocket you caught it. I got my you, you caught it. If I have never heard another verse from you again in life, I was like, I like him.
[00:01:48] That was it. I just needed that one. That was it. Right. The name of the song is bad boy for life.
[00:01:57] What does that cast get dropped? What does that mean to you?
[00:02:01] That means that I had to find other meanings for bad boy besides snickering that bad boy just
[00:02:07] represented a record label. And then I seen that bad boy was a movie with Will Smith and Maurel Lawrence.
[00:02:13] And then I started feeling better because I was like as long as I could see bad boy just don't mean somebody who
[00:02:18] was signed the pub daddy club. It's not bad boy. His name is love or did he?
[00:02:24] Did he pop whatever it is this whatever you want to call. But you know, that's not bad boy. Bad boy
[00:02:32] is a record label. If you want to know about the record label bad boy, bad boy is a record label
[00:02:39] that consists of artists such as Mace, Deluxe, Black Rob, G-Dep, Shine, Total, Faith Evans, Biggie Smalles,
[00:02:54] Mario Wynons, Faith Evans, Craig Mack. The one who brought the money to the building in the
[00:03:03] original. It was Craig Mack. That's the one. It goes back to when they used to put Mack and
[00:03:10] Biggie and they used to have the big Mac tomorrow. It was actually Berger. It was like a Berger.
[00:03:15] It was a tape in there. And you know, the crazy thing is these two dudes, they'd be like,
[00:03:21] how many songs they've done with each other? One. See how crazy the music industry gets?
[00:03:27] So let me ask you something. Reason why I contacted you because I wanted to get clarity on something.
[00:03:37] I used to follow you on Twitter when you first wrote the book. You wrote the book in two.
[00:03:41] I don't follow me no more than because I was mad at you.
[00:03:44] Let's figure this out. But this is why you here and this is why this is dope.
[00:03:50] You know what I'm saying? Because I could tell you I was mad at you.
[00:03:53] And I wanted clarity. So I'm glad that you gave me the proper, you didn't bash me.
[00:04:01] You didn't go crazy on me with you cut up but I'm glad that you handled it on man time.
[00:04:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.
[00:04:08] Right. And I got a lot of respect for that. You wrote the book 2015 if I'm not mistaken,
[00:04:15] right? Right. I know I wrote the book in 2009. Wow. The book came out in 2009. That's almost like
[00:04:22] 9.10. That's what it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like 14 years ago, 15 years ago going on
[00:04:30] 15. So I'm thinking why am I thinking to, oh, because the tweets, okay, so let me get to the tweets.
[00:04:35] So I was following you and got the book. My memo cousin talking about the book. And then I see
[00:04:41] Mark Curry say, I apologize to you. The book is not as important as our friendship.
[00:04:49] And me, I said, what the hell are you apologizing for? If you wrote the book and you meant what
[00:04:56] you said, why are you apologizing? So I ain't going to front. I got mad. I ain't saying nothing
[00:05:00] to you. I was just like, nah, that's some. That's not gonna get mad. Let me clarify that for
[00:05:05] me, bro because because you're gonna be. Yeah, please, please, I'll follow you right back right now.
[00:05:10] But please tell me, man, you're, you're man. You're my man. You're what we call them. What are we
[00:05:15] gonna call them? You're man, my man. I don't know who's man. Oh boy. Let's call them. Oh boy. Got
[00:05:21] you. The old boy cause he says, look man. I'm really taking this love thing serious. This new
[00:05:29] thing that I'm going to is love and what I want to do is change a lot of the things that's going on.
[00:05:39] You know, and I he said he wanted to change himself. I said, yo, if you willing to change
[00:05:45] yourself and be a better person, the only thing I can do is stand by your side because everything
[00:05:54] in life must change. Nothing remains the same. We got songs about it. So it's like if you
[00:06:00] willing to change and you feel that today, you came to a point where you realize that
[00:06:06] you want to change your old ways and maybe going to some new ways of thinking to be a new you,
[00:06:14] then I'm willing to stand by you. Can you give me one second? Yes. Yeah. And yeah, I'm on the
[00:06:20] interview. Thank you, y'all my wife's. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. Great. Let's go. So yes, I'm
[00:06:28] more bad. Let's go. So if he was willing to change, as long as he's willing to change, I'm
[00:06:36] willing to forget and it's hard to be able to forgive me. Right. Right. With his part of life,
[00:06:44] if you can't forgive him. So at that time, he was like, I'm going to take this thing serious.
[00:06:50] He was like, I said, well, you know what you need to do. He said, yeah, he said, you know what
[00:06:56] you need to do. I said, I know what I need to do. I said, but do you know what you need to do?
[00:07:01] He said, I know what I needed to say when I'm going to do what I need to do and then me while you
[00:07:07] go do what you need to do and then we'll meet back at this place and we'll come up with a great
[00:07:13] solution, which meant he was like, I want to protect my legacy. And I said, I'm what you want
[00:07:21] on that. So I said, so basically you want me to stop selling my book. And he didn't want to say,
[00:07:30] yes and no. So I said, I know what you want. And in order for you to stop selling my book,
[00:07:36] when I'm going to start looking at is how much money I make a year off of the book. And I want
[00:07:42] you to turn that time forever. And I want you to give me that and one lump sum that we'll be all right.
[00:07:48] And it was left off on like, let me so because you know, I mean like really it is my grief,
[00:07:57] my drive where he was just business beach. I know this not nothing personal is all business. That
[00:08:03] means like, you know, it was a few times when I went through Christmas and I didn't have what I
[00:08:11] needed to be that champion. I am in my family because I build our business dealings. And it's more
[00:08:17] than just maybe 10 occasions. Right. It's more it's like every year since I met you, it's been the
[00:08:23] words years of my life. But I managed to get through but it's never going to be something where
[00:08:30] I'm going to let you just walk off and say, this is so I wrote a book and I sent them a touch
[00:08:35] that to your back. So every time you take a step or everywhere you go, anytime you form a cell of book.
[00:08:43] Hmm. So so you apologize thinking that he was going to make do on your very
[00:08:50] apologize. So he apologize to you as well. Yeah, he apologize but he just didn't live through his
[00:08:56] deal. I can't stop selling my book and then somebody who doesn't want to
[00:09:02] have to say me for not selling my book. I don't care how sorry you say you I got a book out
[00:09:07] that makes money. Right. I'm not going to stop selling my book just because you say you're sorry.
[00:09:12] I'm going to stop selling my book when you pay me for stop selling my book and then just we're
[00:09:17] going to go retro the same way when you give back the publishing. We're going to go retro don't
[00:09:21] get me back to publishing. Let's take a 10 years back. Give me 10 years worth of it from back.
[00:09:27] Don't don't drive the well out and then say here you got a well. Yeah, hey, you go on.
[00:09:32] So so so Mark let me ask you something. When you when you apologize publicly on a Twitter
[00:09:38] did you take the book down? I sure did. I took that joint down for how many months baked by
[00:09:44] three months. So you lost brand? I lost a lot of money. It was hot. That's how it was hot.
[00:09:50] It was hot. Oh yeah, then and then and then he changed his phone number.
[00:09:56] Yeah, see you ain't knowing all of this. He changed his phone number then when you started calling
[00:10:01] I just erased his whole number because the number that he called me with being loved and then after
[00:10:08] I tried to contact him like yo bro it's three months. I don't took the book down. I'm still waiting
[00:10:13] to see what you want. Right right right and it wasn't no answer. The number was no good. I was like
[00:10:19] you know what? I needed this friend is being me man. Don't never stop being me. And from that point
[00:10:25] I realized that I'm too old in life to alter my visions and my dreams and my walk for another
[00:10:32] person's perception. So that means like I can't stop doing what I'm going to do because
[00:10:41] I can't stop when I'm doing unless I'm stopping it for positive reasons.
[00:10:47] Right right. Money doesn't always money's not always a good reason to stop doing things. So
[00:10:53] like for an example when you see him saying today I saw him on the interview and he was like
[00:11:00] the world is really like coming down on him and how hard it was and how he needed people to stand
[00:11:06] by him and how he was calling for God. And then I was like yo if you really was sincere about
[00:11:13] your calling you would have called me on the phone and you would have called me and said Mark
[00:11:18] can you please change it and let's talk because I don't want people to think this is what we have
[00:11:25] going on and I'm willing to change my ways. If you can just forgive me and I say puff I forgive
[00:11:32] I would come on the platform and be like yo you know what from this day forward
[00:11:37] he's our brother again. Yeah right I wanted to say that because it's so important that you said
[00:11:45] that bro because I've said on my platform plenty of times. Yeah I'd be wanting us and you'd
[00:11:50] be wanting me to forgive people who never ask for forgiveness. You have to ask for it and then
[00:11:56] I could consider it and if you could come to me humbly then I say you know what let's figure this out.
[00:12:03] Or you would be the problem that's not understanding. If somebody asks you humbly
[00:12:09] like you said humbly that humbly asked me and then what do I do? You'd be like the only thing
[00:12:14] I could do is not put myself first and not be selfish and say you know what I'm gonna have to
[00:12:20] stand by the brother and I'm gonna have to take whatever it is whatever it was that I had
[00:12:25] the archery of murders, the dreams and all this I'm gonna let it go because I rather stand next
[00:12:30] in my brother to stand without her. Could I ask you at that time you wrote the book did you have
[00:12:37] your publishing? When I wrote that book I always had my publishing. So you didn't go through
[00:12:45] the publishing problems. I didn't go through with Robin and then went to and Depp I didn't have
[00:12:54] I knew what part of it was mine and I immediately went for mine as soon as they told me what
[00:13:00] mine's was because that's all I wish to ask for what do I own, what do I own maybe like you own
[00:13:06] all right well give me what I own and I don't want y'all that minister in it. I mean I don't want
[00:13:10] to check the company for you to get to me because y'all take too long to cut my check right
[00:13:16] y'all cut the checks on December 31st yeah yeah yeah yeah man god damn we don't miss Christmas
[00:13:24] right day man so so what's your pin what's wrong with your pin we know bad boy for life as
[00:13:28] your pin what else is your pin well I say these things man but on the on the writings I did the
[00:13:38] guys in the company which was a very big song the guys in the company song with puff daddy and
[00:13:45] that Zeppelin I wrote that joint and I gave him those words and inspired him to be that character
[00:13:51] he was at that time I did the you know I performed on the bad boy for for life song with him I did
[00:14:00] the gangster shit with him a little kid I wrote every song well not every song I can't say that
[00:14:09] but you know you still got artists you know writers like source money who was who was you know
[00:14:15] very powerful impact on plus career um Mariah from the hood fell down
[00:14:21] yeah I remember I'm a rock from the hood fell down in my rock
[00:14:27] we'll have a high song and I play a high song that I have for puff people like he want to buy it for
[00:14:32] me so you would sell a license into the records or he bought the liver like what how did you do how
[00:14:39] did that work how does that work you come in the joint you come in the studio with a high song you play
[00:14:45] it's crazy he liked it it's still being about you people like let me buy from you let me sing the words
[00:14:54] you can go ahead on and get that yeah I can make plenty of the songs did did that do you
[00:15:02] felt like at hindsight is 2020 did that hurt Mark Curry to artists I thought that me letting
[00:15:10] part of me shine through him will introduce me to the world so they can accept me a little bit more
[00:15:16] once I made it there but when I realized that the next step of being the best of me he didn't want
[00:15:25] to allow that to happen he wanted it to be the best of him and you say puff even though I wrote
[00:15:30] these songs for you and they made you shine what about the songs that I wrote for me that's even
[00:15:36] better than the songs that I wrote for you right because you're not going to give away your best best
[00:15:40] bad you're gonna have something to tell you the songs you're never hurt and you still got
[00:15:44] those are the songs that was like please don't let the world here but you still got them
[00:15:49] yes still got why you put them out hey y'all I put them out every now and then gradually like I just
[00:15:54] put out a couple of songs I put out a song called I am I put out a song called secrets
[00:16:03] I'm going to do another song called unlike that which I did in like 1990 which is
[00:16:08] gonna still be like something back that I produced it I produced all my music too so all of
[00:16:14] these are all the DSPs right now um which means DSPs that's just you do streaming platforms
[00:16:21] I got the digital I got two songs right now um see what's the thing because you're young y'all
[00:16:30] Spotify Apple music no the other one uh this girl kid yeah but it's but this girl kids sends it to
[00:16:38] those though yeah but I know I've got a distro kid and then I got the songs on distro kid
[00:16:43] and so they made it available for Apple music exactly you know no up to see this girl kid is called
[00:16:49] the aggregator the aggregator distro's stints and everywhere else yeah we was talking yeah we needed
[00:16:56] to talk cuz I'm 52 I'm not into the right you know like you know when we was talking the other day
[00:17:03] and I was talking to them about you know how things was and they was like you know and then we
[00:17:09] was like yo and this is what was going like before Rick Ross and them had their they did these songs
[00:17:15] well let me go into your interview I'm sure you got some days you want to add yeah because
[00:17:19] up because because I seen a tidbit of you and you was talking about how y'all had certain bottles
[00:17:23] for women and uh uh you know uh y'all was the women wanted some pills you you didn't feel like
[00:17:31] that might have put you in the situation like you was down with that a little bit now but you know
[00:17:36] what I look at a hobby life for anybody who has a problem with me letting them know what the
[00:17:42] times was like right and they say don't talk about it to incriminate yourself you'd be like
[00:17:48] first I'm not incriminating myself and I do want y'all to know so maybe sometimes we can understand
[00:17:54] why somebody sitting there that's good behind they going to a party went to a party in 1999 she
[00:18:01] never came back to say right right yeah I'm up but so at what point because we I'm not old enough
[00:18:10] but I remember hearing like studio 54 was like this I know about the tunnel I know about speed
[00:18:15] all of that what was that party like life because a lot of people want to get into this culture
[00:18:20] and then I see some of them really really repeating some of the steps even worse now because the
[00:18:25] drugs up to me in my opinion is more harsh because it's a variation what was that party life like when
[00:18:31] it was bad the sex drugs in rock and roll what was that really like yeah let me tell you about the
[00:18:38] bad boy model in order to be on the bad boy's street team you had to make the most noise
[00:18:47] fuck the most bitches and have the most fun that was the street team model so when puff used to
[00:18:55] send a street team out they going out there to get the women they're gonna do whatever they got
[00:19:02] to do whatever they got to do and they go ahead and most fun see it's almost like sex drugs
[00:19:09] in rock and roll so you could say sex drugs a hip hop where most people don't understand
[00:19:17] what the actual term with the meaning of industry is really about industry industry is not the music
[00:19:25] industry music industry is an industry that's why it's called industry industry so when you think of
[00:19:34] the power of drugs over the industry and when you think of who who runs the music industry
[00:19:45] tell it number four yeah I told them drugs found it about found it on the television channels
[00:19:52] that we watch when you think about who owns the radio stations that we listen to music on and then
[00:19:58] you talk about the industry then you talking about the liquor industry then you talking about
[00:20:06] they own so rock they own telly-on they own smeron of they own uh uh Hennessy yeah yeah yeah
[00:20:17] right so you're talking about the industry they own Mercedes Benz they owns Chrysler they own
[00:20:25] universal books they own uh random house they had they own everything we watch or we go to they own
[00:20:35] Walmart so when you go against the industry you are going against an animal
[00:20:45] hmm so in this case if we wanted to this put some clear care some like some clarification
[00:20:52] clear clarification on what's going on mm-hmm I think puff went against the industry and that's why
[00:20:59] he's where he's at right now that's why that's why he's where he's at right he went against the
[00:21:03] industry so you you come in how long you've been down I've been down um they've been knowing me for
[00:21:10] about maybe 20 years they've been knowing me for 20 years they've been down with me for 20 years
[00:21:17] I wasn't down with them it was down with me right right because you it was your peop so
[00:21:23] you you come in so much big is gone Craig Mack is not in the fold but then he comes back um
[00:21:31] yeah what what was the East Coast West Coast you wasn't there for none of that
[00:21:36] how you gonna say that I told that walk you through it I tell you what it's all about
[00:21:40] I could tell you how it started where it started I could tell you what happened I'm the truth
[00:21:44] I'm the one that's been given the living testimony okay so why people okay so why do people
[00:21:49] tell me so why people think it started with the big Jake situation with shook man is that how it started
[00:21:56] but if you if you know if anybody who get that book that's why we need everybody get that book
[00:22:02] because when they get that book they're gonna know yes it did start with that but then you
[00:22:07] also go know that I was the one that worked the front door at the club
[00:22:13] what make sure y'all get this book dancing with the devil by Mark Curry right here it's so
[00:22:19] unkindled it's so on paperback mass market paperback get that book I'm gonna make sure this
[00:22:26] Amazon link is pinned as the first comment get that book dancing with the devil right there get
[00:22:33] that book make sure y'all get that book all right we just have to do that come here real quick man
[00:22:39] that was a good one that's commercial play so you don't tell me station identification we
[00:22:46] ought to pay the bills exactly you got to pay the bill so so Mark you telling me you
[00:22:50] was working at the door and that's what started the east coast west coast thing at in Atlanta with
[00:22:56] with the the whole domain pre-park is what I heard about it but I didn't think so it's in the book
[00:23:01] it's in the the whole book is about this like it's about the the gangsterism in music industry
[00:23:08] and what was really going on in the 90s what was going on you know two out the 90s this this
[00:23:16] if it was in the bible it would have been a bit like what happened to two pop and big smalls
[00:23:22] you can kind of compare that to great stories in the bible in today's world
[00:23:29] so those were great those were two great individuals that if you had to write a modern day bible
[00:23:36] it would be about them too so the whole so now we see in this key fee d thing come out and all
[00:23:44] like what would you know about that is it is how realistic is some of that stuff let's say this
[00:23:52] let's say this I think it has it has some real points to it but
[00:24:02] okay you got two sides of the world we work with the right side and the wrong side right
[00:24:08] the wrong side could be winning right now the wrong side could be in control and in power
[00:24:14] and they are controlled by the people but one day it's a reverse in power between the wrong
[00:24:19] and the right so it comes that time when you have people like key fee d to things that's going on
[00:24:28] this is just a transfer of power and balance things like that so you can expect it to happen because
[00:24:36] everything has to change like we can't keep going on with a lie living a lie like a lot of people
[00:24:42] live alive you knew what happened to two pop and you never said anything about it did you know how hard
[00:24:48] it is for you to live like it's like g depth g depth could no longer live with what he felt he did
[00:24:57] in life and he had to go into the pre-sync and confess and really man up to his his his actions
[00:25:04] which it takes a great man to man up to his actions right so we don't know if he's manning up to his
[00:25:10] actions or if he's just being what you call it a conspire toward what's that word uh I would say if
[00:25:17] he was just being a custody to me because you know I a conspire toward somebody conspiracy a conspiracy
[00:25:26] conspiracy yeah yeah yeah I mean but I I haven't took that to my grave for a keeper but some people
[00:25:32] can't live with itself but what they did so they can't live with they can't live with itself so did
[00:25:37] you know a short night as well I knew I knew a short night was short night was never important for
[00:25:44] him enough for me to really for him to know me hmm he was just somebody he wasn't somebody that
[00:25:51] you know I feel I mean you know we wanted to meet him and do business but at the you know he
[00:25:56] going for the same thing we're going for we all want to we right it was like short night meeting
[00:26:01] bird man you think bird man wanted to meet shed night maybe like man yeah yeah I'm my own shed night
[00:26:07] because reason why I'm asking you that um you have this this this big moment in history
[00:26:12] that happened east coast west coast but now you're running with the east coast version of the problem
[00:26:18] to the west coast what was the day in the like life like for y'all with this so-called beef handle
[00:26:24] or y'all had something to do with park biggie set park up you down to what was it like for you
[00:26:30] you know it's crazy because they did a whole west side version of something and it was called
[00:26:35] straight out of content but the east coast never got a chance to speak on anything that I thought
[00:26:40] that dealt with that situation hmm and the reason why the east and then the south has something to say
[00:26:47] too right right literally when they when they when they actually when I felt like they
[00:26:54] asked me that's when they were signing to understand and all of those the connection because I was
[00:27:00] I was actually the first connection that was connecting the south to the to the east to the west
[00:27:06] and it was before um 50 cent in fact the game when when he signed the 50 cent he came from
[00:27:16] from amongst my peers you know so that was the two park I mean um the doctor drake in the 50 cent
[00:27:26] and you know so I was the first 50 cent before 50 cent like 50 cent was nice I take nothing from him
[00:27:36] but I was the first one that had all of those coast together hmm speak on the 50 cent uh
[00:27:44] he used the clip for you on his Instagram yeah he did and it kind of made you look like you
[00:27:52] was a part of something what you want to say about that I wanted to say that you can find me in the
[00:27:58] club bottle full of blood mama got what you need if you think I've got the ex if you're in the
[00:28:05] taking drugs so come get it if you give me the like so when you pull up out so he said he had the ex
[00:28:14] he can't say nothing about nobody but that was just all a part of the culture with the pot
[00:28:22] can't call the kettle black wow I didn't mean so we pay attention to that yeah we sometimes when we
[00:28:32] start listening to things we got to pay more attention to it right and we say yo you know what
[00:28:37] I ain't gonna say Rick Ross said he put Mario all the machine even though he took a home then he
[00:28:42] said I took a home and enjoyed that you know it then Bill Cosby went to jail we'd be like yo this
[00:28:53] shit been going on in the culture would I mean by we we've been experiencing this as a culture for
[00:29:01] many years prior to us even being born fire it wasn't it wasn't prof it wasn't 50 it wasn't Rick Ross
[00:29:10] it was this the culture and what they was doing to actually make make the artists
[00:29:18] that was the industry right right that's what made you um and wanted to take like a star you got
[00:29:26] to be out there with the stars so most of the people when they feel like they got to get out
[00:29:32] there with the stars they elevate themselves in another kind of mental way so a lot of people
[00:29:38] like to be just so they can be out there with the stars so it's so much going on with the abuse
[00:29:45] that he's being uh yeah yeah like accused her right now on the thing that always fascinated me
[00:29:54] with the situation is the the accused fun boy stuff that they always say that he's a little
[00:30:00] you know funny did you ever see anything that made you say yo what's up with you man like
[00:30:06] now funny people do funny things around the funny
[00:30:11] that's how good yeah you're like man you know sometimes like when you pay attention to something
[00:30:16] you'd be like hey this two men kiss him you gotta realize you're like where are we at that's
[00:30:21] the first day you're gonna actually sell right right right where we at right you might be standing
[00:30:28] into where the people do that right so you wrong for walking over right right now y'all
[00:30:35] say they were wrong for doing what they do and you gotta say what the hell am I doing over
[00:30:38] right man you gotta remove yourself from that you can't get mad at some people over there but
[00:30:44] with my man look I should not be here right sometimes you gotta say that to yourself I should not be
[00:30:52] here uh Kirk borrows also has a great with him but you know about Kirk man it's a good guy
[00:31:00] Kirk is a good guy in fact i turn my movie into a movie script and since I had talked to him
[00:31:10] and i'm just like letting him pioneer some business ventures that I'm on just because
[00:31:17] I know that he's a great businessman and we all want to create that one big chance for each other
[00:31:23] so i'm like yo any event that what i'm trying to do creates an opportunity i wanted to create
[00:31:30] the opportunity for me and you because both of us have lost and we both need to win right now
[00:31:38] now we don't need to win for each other we just need to win for our families and everybody that's
[00:31:42] around us that still can believe and still look at up look up look up to you or look up to me and say
[00:31:50] you know i see a hero in you because you never gave up um now that's real the bad boy curse how
[00:31:57] real is that it's real it's real real thank you but you gotta keep that off of you right
[00:32:03] up you know the bad boy curse is real and what it is it's like if you don't never stand up
[00:32:08] the puff if you don't never really look him in the eyes like you have to look him in the eyes
[00:32:13] and say bro i will whip your ass see that's no mark but mark let me ask you stuff that i always
[00:32:19] wondered why nobody put no hands on this dude yo because he'll do it all the way up to a point
[00:32:26] and look at you great every time he would walk in and see me say mark up you still want to fight me
[00:32:32] i'd be like yeah we could still do that get that over with real quick so we can move on
[00:32:38] he come in mark up you still want to fight me yeah i still i want to i want to have a
[00:32:42] because one time i know he looked when he was he was saying something he was looking at me
[00:32:47] in the eyes like he was sending me he thought i was going to say he was looking at me like
[00:32:53] like like and i was like let me tell you something i said my man if so happy to go from him it's not
[00:33:01] gonna stop right here it's gonna go all the way you are not going to be able to do this
[00:33:06] you're not going to be able to go here it's gonna turn these kind of people against you
[00:33:11] and now it's gonna be me against you and i try to tell you you look at me like i'm a little boy but
[00:33:16] my brother i am a pineapple you have to look him in the eye and say that you touch me and
[00:33:21] was smack the shit out of you telling me so i don't care what was when was it over for you
[00:33:28] no because that's what we did and we knew you was in the loop and then we know the book
[00:33:33] we've seen the tweets but then the book is out when was when did Mark Curry have enough
[00:33:38] yeah when it when it was over that's when he was doing making it a band day 26 other than
[00:33:43] other MTV groups and he didn't really care about the record label type groups or more he was
[00:33:49] this i'm just doing it for MTV and he kind of like turned his back on all his artists so he then
[00:33:56] he became MTV making it a band and all of this so he was living off of that so he didn't really
[00:34:02] have to do no more music with the record label no more so he was like let me just ditch that and go
[00:34:07] through MTV and then he went mess day lives up and then after all of them got messed up and then
[00:34:14] you be like damn man you know what i sat back if y'all could have just watched what was going on with
[00:34:19] you would you wouldn't have to went through this if you just noticed what was going on
[00:34:26] so you had to sit back and watch everybody fell everybody came back oh it didn't work it didn't work
[00:34:33] yeah because it's designed not to work businesses not designed to work with him nobody's meant to get
[00:34:39] rich with him except him or the female this is what i saw this is what i heard the lawyer who gave
[00:34:46] you the contract he just passed away right let me give you another one
[00:34:50] go ahead would you look at yo you know another person that was that used to work with puff that
[00:34:55] was real dear to the company her name was Francesca Spiro uh-huh did you ever know about her
[00:35:02] no google friend Jessica Spiro a real quick bad boy hey Siri who is Francesca Spiro bad boy
[00:35:13] Francesca ready that's not what i said let me let me let me let me let me let me let me let
[00:35:18] the Siri does what she wants to do sometime Francesca Francesca do not see we go go and let's do
[00:35:25] Francesca Spiro and then bad boy and then read up on her and this these are interesting things
[00:35:33] she died on November 14th uh forgive me yeah thank uh two guys and fourteen but um
[00:35:43] if Kenny died that's going to be incredible because there's nobody else that's living that was
[00:35:50] dead at know about the executive decisions Francesca Spiro is it sp-e-r-o oh oh Spiro okay cool
[00:36:02] we doing work right now y'all like right in the middle of other end i better be doing it too
[00:36:07] everybody who listens you should be a different entertainment was this the same person
[00:36:12] yeah let's see about her read about her who is Francesca Spiro
[00:36:20] uh discography
[00:36:24] really i'm a i'm a this is this is that right let me let me see let me see
[00:36:29] yo bro i love you to read this bro who was on the lawyer that died what's their name
[00:36:35] um candle candle mentor candle mentor i can show you the article
[00:36:41] you know send you a link to it or whatever but yeah candle mentor he was the he was the creator of
[00:36:45] the bad boy contrasts okay all right hit me back
[00:36:53] stone mountain yeah that's what his office was
[00:36:58] candle mentor okay all right
[00:37:03] all right all right all right yeah candle mentor i'm thinking i just know
[00:37:11] i know a couple of the big big lawyers here but not candle mentor uh he was the creator of the
[00:37:18] bad boy contract and he definitely knew Kenny Marcia's though right right but you know go back
[00:37:27] to Francesca this is even more interesting she sued did he before stampede shoot out in the body
[00:37:35] guard bro her day whose legal trouble had played out uh what is he suing for i'm about to look right now
[00:37:44] because this is happening in real time this is something 1991
[00:37:50] oh um that was the is the city college
[00:37:54] no and that's when he had the when he did the thing with him and heavy deep right that was a
[00:37:59] rather than the people got killed for it they got smashed
[00:38:04] smother right the Francesca Spiro you're going to her she'd be she uh she she she filed she sued him for
[00:38:14] uh discrimination if i'm mistaken that left out yeah i'm gonna i'ma find it i'ma find it i'll
[00:38:20] put it out you know what i'm gonna do oh here we go Francesca Spiro music executive let's show
[00:38:24] them at the same time Francesca Spiro music executive in her 50 suit combs for age discrimination saying
[00:38:32] she was fired for having worked with him since 1998 the company denied she was let go because of her age
[00:38:39] in combs settled for the multi-million dollar suit in 2011
[00:38:44] and she she uh she passed away in 2014
[00:38:53] so that was right after that she's the one who used to do it all like to add men not saying but
[00:39:01] it's a lot of good people that come from around him even those some that people don't know
[00:39:08] that lost their life around this man being a part of his company right it's not it's a list of them
[00:39:17] so the the the the monies that you feel is old is is is book retroactive well you don't feel like
[00:39:25] anything is old right now right no i don't feel like none is old but i know that i don't have
[00:39:31] the house that i deserve that i my music created my talent was did a get right i don't have the
[00:39:37] relationship sometimes with you know people that i was supposed to have like i'm not good because i
[00:39:43] wanted to ask you that did a lot of people turn eight did a lot of people turn eight back on you
[00:39:47] a lot of people turn eight back on me but that's what they're supposed to do when people don't
[00:39:53] believe a lot of people do a lot of friends so would you forgive some of them if they didn't ask
[00:39:58] for gift for forgiveness like because i know you lost a lot like wait wait i do like to forgive i will
[00:40:03] forgive with the only thing that i know now his life has changed and like let's say like if
[00:40:08] somebody needs the bar hundred dollars from me you could borrow hundred dollars from me no powder
[00:40:13] but you go ahead to ask my girl to give it to you she's not going like
[00:40:19] already knows like good god back
[00:40:21] good good god yeah yeah yeah no answer she won't give it to you right right i'm ready
[00:40:26] know i got somewhere in the design that just helped me out sometimes and be like you know mark
[00:40:31] you know you know they help me make good decisions personal question how did you stay
[00:40:36] saying throughout all of us i always thought of myself as a person who was in prison because
[00:40:45] sometimes you can be free and you can really be locked up and i was like really
[00:40:50] marked you free but you were in prison so the only thing you got to do is use your imagination
[00:40:55] and the only thing that's going to lock you up is your mind so i never let you know like what
[00:41:02] what i thought i was going through i never let it affect me and i always thought about the things
[00:41:06] that i could do or how i can come back from this so i do like right now i might be losing with losing
[00:41:14] this only temporary what it's going to be like when i come back with it and i'll be like this
[00:41:19] kind of outfit i'm gonna get this one i'm gonna say this i'm gonna be i'm gonna be like this so
[00:41:24] then by the time you imagine what you're going to do when you lose in the winter it'd be 10 years
[00:41:29] went by right right right right 15 20 right yeah you never gave up you just stayed believing i always
[00:41:38] stayed believing this day that's happening right now the law suits the accusations did you foresee this
[00:41:48] yeah yeah i sure did you want to know when i seen it man when i said honey work and god gives me
[00:41:57] with the talent to do this and then i meet you and then all of a sudden things go wrong how to
[00:42:04] the things go wrong with god's plan when you involved um god don't fail you fail
[00:42:12] i said never had stopped putting 100% in my trust and god and put trust in you because you failed
[00:42:24] and that's just how i go and god be like you know what he didn't fail you or i didn't fail you he
[00:42:31] says just wasn't meant for you to win that way it was meant for you to i needed you to take him down
[00:42:39] i needed you to one day be a voice that needs to be heard so when i go against him i need them to be
[00:42:47] able to reference to you as flesh so they can understand this man and i never gave up on that every
[00:42:58] morning i get up i chip off at an anchor chip off at an anchor and to one day the giant fall
[00:43:04] it's it's it's the story how you defeat a giant
[00:43:10] puff is a big giant in order to win you're going to you're going to you're going to have to really
[00:43:15] it's like the date it's it's really not just it's a big battle because you got a battle with being
[00:43:21] black ball you got a battle with people who is allies and people who you know he has under his
[00:43:30] influence so it's not even about what you feel about him or what he feels about you
[00:43:36] sometimes it'd be about what the people around him feel and that you'd be like date is one for you
[00:43:42] did you ever fear for your safety because a lot of people say i don't fear for my safety because you
[00:43:47] wouldn't know why god got an army and we got the biggest guns so i don't have to fear for that
[00:43:55] you know the the love of god goes far beyond the thought or imagination of man
[00:44:01] so for every i said in the song or muscle game um let's say it for i said for every
[00:44:10] for every 10 soldiers in mind you you kill i killed one of yours and you still going to run out of
[00:44:20] soldiers before i do and you're doing 10 of mine for your one because god got an army true
[00:44:28] force god got an army true force he did try to help black robin man because i told him to help him
[00:44:36] because i told him this is going to be the right thing for you to do in the world and the eyes of
[00:44:40] the world this is what you're going to have to do in order to be a big person by that time it was too
[00:44:47] late though if i'm not mistaken it was too late we just had to bury him at that time we didn't
[00:44:52] had to worry about all of the stuff that he had to worry about he was previously talking to
[00:44:59] couple of my friends and and and and they was trying to get rob a place and on it is i'm like
[00:45:05] man forget trying to get him a place he knew he needed right now like the stuff that they
[00:45:10] was talking with him the stuff that still might take two weeks or a month you know like man we
[00:45:16] got him went we got two weeks we talking about right now like right now like in 10 minutes so
[00:45:25] everything up until then was just something that was just like we're working on it or we'll figure
[00:45:31] it out people like man we we got to figure out right because we know what we need to do right now
[00:45:36] like right now nobody wants to believe in right now
[00:45:43] well i commend you for still um
[00:45:48] being saying i commend you for still fighting a good fight um again i appreciate you for giving
[00:45:55] me your time um and clarifying some things for me and um i'm pretty sure people had that might
[00:46:03] have the same questions laid on so they could just refer to here of why things is um people should
[00:46:09] pick up the book the book is still available still out there though the book is a bible the bible
[00:46:15] is the oldest book in the world and it's still the number one selling book the bible is still the
[00:46:22] number one selling book in the world but i want you no but what i want you to do too i want you
[00:46:29] to let go of some of that music because you make me a deal with you going first man music
[00:46:34] because again but would you hold on it for at this point because because because this is with
[00:46:39] this life you know why Eric about no let's take shoday you know why shoday don't keep dropping
[00:46:45] album after album after album after album why because it's an artist one of the things that's so hard
[00:46:53] to do is outdo what you've done already great you was already great at it see i get that but let me
[00:46:59] stop you but when we think about greatness it's tied to him by the how your greatness tied to
[00:47:06] yes tied to him talking about the same him we talking about right yeah not not man yeah we told
[00:47:11] my brother brother love we talking about what's tied to him no would i mean all right let's go back
[00:47:20] what was i what was i going there you were saying the great artist shoday and i'm like man that's
[00:47:25] cap okay go ahead don't go ready how many albums she had i don't know probably only one or two she
[00:47:34] had many albums three but who was shoday tied to them she not tied to him we talk about she's
[00:47:41] tied to shoday the shoday is her own she's loving stronger than right i think she had a man with
[00:47:48] called sweet sweet back band sweet something like that because he'll have been an album but what
[00:47:52] I'm saying about Maul Curry we think of Daren Daren we think about you in that motorcycle right but
[00:47:59] we can't we can't we can't until the world is ready for change this the same thing while hundred
[00:48:05] three thousand say he won't wrap them yeah but you ain't playing no damn flute bro you had lyrics
[00:48:11] but i rather play the flute than to try to preach good lyrics upon people who don't want to hear
[00:48:17] about how do you because you be like no you'd be like these people don't want to hear about
[00:48:21] under this inspiration they want to hear about this this that the world the music now is going so far
[00:48:27] less it's hard to let me say something do you do you believe that you was a part of sparking
[00:48:36] the walls of diddy Jericho fall tumbling down you was a part of that right you might have
[00:48:41] stopped the world if you're talking about as far as did where we are today like you
[00:48:46] don't bring them down yeah yes okay so you could be a part of something that changes music you are
[00:48:54] ready a part of change that's what i did it for okay so put the damn music oh and while we add a
[00:49:00] hole a hole a hole on make sure you bought a book dance with the devil is on kendo paperback
[00:49:07] radio amazon amazon amazon my career is an ex-bad boy artist that has recorded several hits with
[00:49:15] Sean P. Diddy Combs has recorded with some of the biggest stars in the music business you can read
[00:49:20] all of this for yourself the link is the first link in the comment make sure you get this book right
[00:49:25] here you could get it on amazon kendo listen to it or whatever you got to do it i make sure
[00:49:31] man make sure you do that i'm back i'm back what my god told me my god told me that he was like your
[00:49:38] cover he was like um he was like um uh uh uh uh doggy diamonds is a good dude yeah yeah and he
[00:49:48] was like yo i just need you to sit down and talk to him and don't don't jump don't don't think
[00:49:53] like this don't think he was like listen to him because he's a good dude i said he a good dude like
[00:49:59] us he was like he a good dude so i was like i i'm uh uh uh uh uh uh uh and then you hit me and then
[00:50:05] i was like bam and then just knowing your character and and just seeing your spirit you are
[00:50:12] asking a good dude and i i want to say to you keep being that because the world needs to see more
[00:50:19] people like you so they can understand it doesn't hurt it's okay to be positive right you don't
[00:50:25] always have to conform in order to be accepted right i've never i don't i'm not made to fit in
[00:50:33] i'm one of one you know we're individuals i'm one of one i don't have a twig you know we have
[00:50:39] i have like minds and hopefully i could track minds but um i'm not here to kiss anybody's
[00:50:46] asked to be down with nobody i don't want to be on revolt i don't do none of that for that
[00:50:50] i don't want to be on the road yeah i'm gonna step down yeah i'm on the side i'm on the side
[00:50:55] it was right in no matter who voice it has to come from as long as i got a platform i'm gonna give
[00:51:00] you that voice and and again when i had a discrepancy with something you see i tried to put an
[00:51:08] AP out i get him and then we connected so i believed in doing the diplomatic and doing the right
[00:51:14] but so i didn't want to chase clap with you because i didn't i didn't feel in your spirit
[00:51:18] that i had to do that with you i just had to get in contact with you and it wasn't even 24 hours
[00:51:23] later here we are you know i'm saying and um like i said i would appreciate you i could probably
[00:51:27] talk to you for like 10 hours but i'ma let you go he has more content drop do you have a content
[00:51:33] on your own drop and like you have a team drop or something oh man we got a whole movie um
[00:51:40] we got a whole movie then coming into play man is the book that i wrote as this is spider to
[00:51:45] us like a cobweb to our hundred stories it's like a um it's like a bmf movie it's like a series
[00:51:53] it's it's bigger than all of that it's bigger than straight out of confidence bigger than bmf
[00:51:58] and as humble as i've been waiting for my turn those are the some of the things that i'm bringing
[00:52:05] to the table but i can't present them until i have my opportunity to speak and what you
[00:52:12] are allowing me to do when you're platformed today so thank you for being there so when you say
[00:52:19] that you work for the right team um i want people to kind of understand what you said
[00:52:26] and how i took it was that your spirit works for the good spirit facts and whenever you have the
[00:52:33] opportunity to do good good comes to you before wrong right and your platform is dead to speak
[00:52:40] on good and to be fruitful and to help individuals that is very powerful yeah so mark hurry give
[00:52:49] on your social media before we go this outreach mark one that's in may rk k one more time
[00:52:57] see you are all wise at it'll all be we will make sure everything is in the description and make
[00:53:03] sure everything yeah it may rk k see you are all wise and you damn me i'm sending out autograph books
[00:53:12] from the DM only though right right and i want to say to the audience on mark curry we got on the
[00:53:18] phone today very very um humble individual very very respectful um and this is why we're here
[00:53:28] today because first thing said to me was yo you my brother so he said you know he said that to
[00:53:34] me and i was like so anything cuz i didn't know how he was going to come but he he said yo call
[00:53:39] me and it was especially especially young ones like y'all mm-hmm y'all didn't have people my age to
[00:53:45] look up to so one thing that's crazy about people my age is i have to be a brother for you because
[00:53:52] you never really have one right right and i got it and i want to tell you too i got to invest
[00:53:58] the interest in all of this cuz biggie was biggie was my childhood friend we from the same
[00:54:02] neighborhood and um he's old you 47 right yeah he's older than me yeah but he's older than me
[00:54:08] but um and you 47 yeah he's older than y'all he's older than me but he's from only five years older than
[00:54:14] but you know what it's like to have somebody that you can look up to to be like hey i need advice
[00:54:23] right right right right right right right right no i'm confused things are not working for me
[00:54:27] can you tell me what i can do to try to change things around give me some advice and you don't have
[00:54:34] people when i look at people your age and i say that there's much of an age difference
[00:54:40] what i see is that you didn't have many opportunities that ask people of my kind
[00:54:47] for advice because i want you to notice that in my age demographics there were no stars
[00:54:56] except for people like public enemy or carrest one there wasn't like a young thug and then a gunna
[00:55:05] and then we had say it was very limited to the entertainers and stars that we reached for
[00:55:11] so we didn't really look we didn't have stars amongst each other to be like we need each other so
[00:55:16] that whole support thing that that people look for a half now we didn't have it then because
[00:55:24] we didn't we didn't have that y'all so we it was dope i want to say it was dope because i got so many
[00:55:31] big brothers in the industry from easy mob to Eric sermon to write these are people who call me
[00:55:37] all the time yo yo yo and i could ask them whatever they'll come on a platform whatever
[00:55:42] and they'll give me the shirt off they back so that's what i built for myself in this culture that
[00:55:47] always been good to a lot of people so i i could call and ask the question about something and they
[00:55:53] be like oh no this is what happened it's what happened get your publishing do make sure this is right
[00:55:58] make sure your name is right there no like so you write a lot of us didn't have that that's why
[00:56:04] so many people got burned that's what like when you look at young thug and you look at what they
[00:56:10] going through and then you think about when we was in the music industry we used to have to go through
[00:56:15] things like media training right where they trained you on how we used to have to rehearse and
[00:56:20] things like that so when the music industry got to the point to where they felt like we didn't
[00:56:25] need the media trained people and let them just go out and do what they want and it was uncensored
[00:56:30] and look at that there was no censorship on it that's when we kind of were wrong but today i can say
[00:56:37] you know for for you and i for what you mean and for what you're doing we can reach a lot of people
[00:56:46] and we can change a lot of people's way of thinking just by keeping going that's why i won't stop
[00:56:53] that's why mark curry got to put out the damn music and also just to case you didn't know where
[00:57:00] you just tune in just now dancing with the devil by mark curry is available right now Amazon
[00:57:05] and then the link is right there in the description box it's also the first pink comment on this
[00:57:10] video make sure you pick up this book make sure you pick up this book if you want to listen to it
[00:57:16] it's ways to listen to it if you don't know how to read he got it in braille he got it in every way
[00:57:21] you can get it make sure you get it i got one question for you go ahead go ahead it's my last question
[00:57:27] i got for you go ahead how do you feel about like the ladder academics you know those platforms
[00:57:35] how do you feel about it's a necessary evil because for every Vlad and academics you got a
[00:57:40] doggy dog because the necessary evil because you you know the honorable lies in my hamid one said
[00:57:48] you put the clean glass awarding for other people next to the dirty glass let them pick
[00:57:52] so if there's nothing to pick from then they're always going to pick that academics i'm not so
[00:57:58] hard on him because i think academics doesn't have a OG never had an OG and and and they rewarded
[00:58:05] him with the play they rewarded him with the money i mean the cut to you don't you're doing
[00:58:08] yo yo i just want to chime in so and then let you finish academics don't have like
[00:58:15] you know you got a girl i don't know yeah who me he don't got no girl oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
[00:58:23] but i'm just saying no like like um i'm gonna be real with you i'm like my baby i'm the baby
[00:58:28] cousin i still getting trouble from hold the cousin if i do shit on the internet there i ain't
[00:58:32] got no business doing or you're gonna get here come these phone calls yo come on man we can't
[00:58:37] be doing that because you're gonna make us have to lay something down for reals i'd be like yeah
[00:58:41] they'd be like yo just leave it alone because you're leaving it alone because you're
[00:58:45] in an that fighting with people and you know where it goes let them let them have it just say what
[00:58:50] you got to say and leave it alone so i still respect um i still respect protocol i still
[00:58:56] respect OGs i still respect people that i know will live for me die for me and love me
[00:59:01] so what do you think about absolute power
[00:59:03] i was explaining it first and then i could tell you what i think that means like
[00:59:10] when you have someone that has a platform that's so powerful there's so many people are
[00:59:16] drawn to their platform but they never tell them the positive things or the fruitful things about
[00:59:21] life that's absolute power that means that you're in control over a mass amount of people
[00:59:27] but you're not feeding them any positive energy that's absolute power absolute powers corrupt
[00:59:33] but you but you answered that earlier because they are a part of what the industry
[00:59:40] the industry is corrupted they're rewarded the devil reward you
[00:59:45] we i think that's a great outro you just said everything we need to say
[00:59:50] devil reward you yes there you go you said it's devil reward you garb reward you too
[00:59:56] yeah but the devil the garb rewards you would love life and more life the devil rewards you
[01:00:02] with chains and cars and women and all of it's immediate results all the immediate
[01:00:07] instant gratification instant gratification but the things you have to work hard for the things
[01:00:13] you have to pray for the things you have to believe in they come they come behind faith a lot of
[01:00:19] people lost faith right they don't have faith but keep on doing what you do because you were
[01:00:25] storing faith so even when you when you said mark curi i want to talk to you today it was put
[01:00:31] into the universe and the car came to me super ace that being and then it was like that because
[01:00:36] you put into the right right right right the positive man facts so mark curi i appreciate you we're
[01:00:41] gonna talk later on



