Rick Ross Is Fake And Did Shady MMG Business Says Gunplay! (Full Interview)

[00:00:00] Yes, what's up everybody? Oh God, I'm Doggie Diamonds. Introduce yourself to the people. Yo, what's up man? It's your boy Gunplay. Don Logan, no slogan. You already know what it is. MMG, Animal Shelter. So we hear, this is our second go around. First time was a movie. I like your interviews because you're truth. What is it about you that's so truthful that it scares the hell out of people?

[00:00:29] Oh man, I don't, dog. I don't even understand. A lot of people tell me that and I can't, I don't understand what, I don't know what they talking about. Like, isn't everybody like? No. I can't get it. I don't know. I don't know. That's just me, bro. That's just me. I'm just, I don't know. I think I've been sent here for like, I've been, you know what I think that, you know what I've been sent?

[00:00:58] I think I've been sent here for, not for support, but to be support. Right. For somebody else. Cause I give a lot. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like if, if it's there to give for sure, you know what I mean? So it's like, I don't know, dog. I don't know. That's just me, dog. I just got to be me, man. Transparent. And so you don't, you know. Did you think your life was going to play out in front of everybody the way it did?

[00:01:28] Hmm. Yeah, I did because I knew I chose this music path and the industry and all that. I knew it was going to be like this. I knew there was going to be people all in my business with their opinions and all of that.

[00:01:45] And I just was like, I'm like that in real life, like just open and whatever. So it's just like, I knew it was going to happen and I just didn't care. Like I'm already like this. It doesn't bother. Nothing bothers me. Right. Is that a good or a bad thing though? To be carefree? Is that a good or a bad thing?

[00:02:08] I think it's a good thing, man, because you don't want no limits. You don't want nobody like, oh, he's this way. He's that way. Or you just want to just start. I don't know. I don't know. Those are such an excellent question.

[00:02:23] Like I can't. Yeah. I don't know. Is it freedom? Is it freeing? Not care? It's carefree is one thing, but you got to have. I'm gonna say this. You got to have some kind of boundaries. You got to have discipline.

[00:02:43] You have to have different things. You know what I'm saying? That's that's really going to keep you where your carefreeness was. It's not going to be detrimental to your loved ones or your health, your loved ones and everybody. Your loved ones. You see what I'm saying? You could be carefree, but you just got to be disciplined in what you're doing. You have to have time and place for everything like that. You know what I mean?

[00:03:08] Yeah. Sometimes, There's time and a place for everything. So, but for the most part, you know, like try, try different avenues of getting money. You never know what you're going to fall in love with. You see what I'm saying? I fall in, I fell in love with music early, so I just kept it music, you know? Now I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm starting to fall in love with the, with the business side of it, with music and the independent side.

[00:03:38] Did you do it in reverse thinking about it? Huh? You did it backwards. I did. We all did. We all did. But good. Because check this out. I'm the type that I want to do it wrong. Anything I'm doing the first time. You can learn it. So I know what not to do the second time. You see what I'm saying? So I said like this, I only got one opportunity. Who knows how long a nigga finna live.

[00:04:08] I'm not finna be sitting here worried about this, that, and the other. When I get to where I need to, when I get to the age where I'm saying, okay, party time is over, I'm finna go get some money. Right, right. It's easy. Right. It's easy. Like just like how it was, not saying it was easy to get on, but the way I think and visualize shit, it just happens, bro. Right. And the way I work towards it, I get anything I want, bro. I get everything. My whole life I've been like that

[00:04:37] till I realized that it was me doing that, of course, with God. You know what I mean? But it was like my visions come to life. And now I know that. Now it's even, you know what I mean? Now I know after this two and a half years of sitting in house arrest and watching everybody live their life and living their reality of how they pictured their life to be and how they're living it. and it's a beautiful thing. You know what I mean? And you see who they have in their life, who they don't have in their life.

[00:05:06] You know what I mean? And you just watch. And you say, you know what? I'm going to do the same thing. Your life is a movie, bro. So this second go around, I got a whole new movie script. I got new characters. I got my, this is like a sequel to the old. So I have to, my new character has to come out in a different light. He has to be seen different, but still showing that he, you know what I mean? That he, that, that, that, that he still got that, that dog in him,

[00:05:35] but he's a different man now. So that's where Don Logan comes into play. That's when being the CEO of animal shelter comes into play. You know what I'm saying? I ain't getting no, I ain't getting no merch, but it's cool. When we see each other in May, I just got a new, I just need an XL. Give me an XL. I don't care how hot it is outside. Yeah. That works. That works. That works. As long as it ain't no, as long as the XL don't fit like no Smedium, I'm good. You know what I'm saying? Nah, nah, it's not super Smedium. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's just right.

[00:06:05] Right, right, right. And it got the, and it got the, the, the Grim Reaper. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It got the, the cone at the top. They're like the champ dog. All right, we good. So bro, on your life has played out in front of us. We done seen you high. We done seen some of your low, no pun intended. Hi. We done seen some of your lows. What is it? Is it anything being carefree, but is it anything? If you could take it back and be like, damn man, I wish I didn't do that. Or I wish they didn't see this about me. At this stage of your life. Well,

[00:06:35] not, not, not nothing that they saw. Like, you know what I mean? Cause if you understood who I am, you would see the L's that you were, if you knew who I am, and there's a lot of niggas just like me and they take L's too. And they, they be in the, cause, cause when you actually in the streets, you're going to take L's, right? Either way, either way you go, it's going to happen. Right. In my case, it was just on, on in everybody's living room.

[00:07:05] Right. You know what I mean? But I don't give a fuck because I know who I am and I know. And, and, and, and the work that I put in, in these streets for real, it's reciprocated by the love I get everywhere I go. So niggas don't be, you know what I'm saying? Niggas ain't even on that. Like, Oh, you got, yeah, you got jumped nigga. You handed your business. That's yo. Can I tell you something? There's something you don't know. This is world, world, uh, world exclusive. When that happened to you, right?

[00:07:36] Pat Poose called me. Pat Poose was like, pardon me, Pat, but I'm going to say a private conversation. Pat Poose called me. He was like, he can't be ashamed. No, he let his nuts hang. You know what I'm saying? And that's what, yo, that's what we all thought. Like, all right, they got up, but he got up and got off. Like it was, you wouldn't lay down. So we was like, yo, he, all right. We seen the beginning, but the ending, what the hell came over you?

[00:08:06] The ending? Yeah. And, and I, and the actual encounter because, Oh, it just, you know, I'm on, I'm on that. Like, you know, we, we grew up fighting down here. Right. Right. Fighting was a, that was your language. Right. Down here. That was the language. It was just fighting. And so I done got my jaw broke, snuck, snuck before. I done got all that before. I done got jumped plenty of times. That wasn't the first time. Why you think I handled that shit so well?

[00:08:36] That ain't the first time, nigga. If you really outside and you really get into it, bro, from young, you been in a thousand fights down here, bro. This is all you did was fight. You'll fight each other. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't nothing. But, um, but one thing that I wish I did would change. Well, nothing that, that that's public or that's in the, I just would change that.

[00:09:04] I didn't get on that digital hustle earlier. Right. Sooner. That's the only thing. Right. Right. Right. Right. I would've got on this digital shit sooner. Cause you was viral. That was your real estate right there. If you had to know him better, you would have knew how to harness all of that. And yeah. But the thing with me, I know it's, you know, I know I'm blessed and I know anything I do is going to work, bro. And all I have to do is show up and be consistent.

[00:09:33] So it's the same with the internet, with the internet, you know, uh, all I have to do is what? Be myself. You were walking reality TV show though. Huh? You were walking reality TV show. Facts. Why you ain't doing it? Why you ain't doing it? It's like, that's all I have to do. So it's why you ain't doing it though. Why you ain't doing it? What reality TV? Nah, nah, that's, that's, it's, it's a different, that's a different monster.

[00:10:02] No bag can make you do it is what you telling me. I mean, it would, I got a, I got an idea, you know, I got a, I got an idea. I want to talk to somebody about, but I'm waiting for him to call me back so we can go over it. right, right, right. Little ideas, nothing crazy. You know, of course you got to involve women, but it's something in that, in that line, you know, with the hoes and shit and something like that. You seem like you calm down too. Did you calm down?

[00:10:32] I had to. Why? Tell them why. Tell them why. During, so during the case, I was, uh, I couldn't get on social media because she would say that I'm directing it to her, even if I, even if I just repost a quote or something. So I had to basically had a court order gag order on and they go on social media.

[00:11:02] They could do that. Tell you, you can't get on social media. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I was forced to actually be quiet, silent, sit still and listen to God's voice. Cause it's a lot going on. Right. You know what I'm saying? So he, God is real, man. He, the way he stripped me down these two and a half years pause, like it was down to my,

[00:11:31] to my very core of faith. Like, is there a, is there really a God you got to show me now for real? Like, so I was, I had no day ones. I had no phone because she changed my iCloud password. I have no contacts. I can't get on social media with my new IG. Nobody even know I'm even still alive or anything. So I just took it at time as a time for me to,

[00:12:01] to really reset my mind. You know what I mean? Let me reset everything. Let me watch. Let me see what's my next move is going to be. Let me see how people react after I, after I beat this. Are they going to, are they going to say congratulations or are they going to just sit there and act like I don't exist? And it's going to be like, okay, I understand. So now I see who you are. What did you get? Did you get the congratulations? Did you get anything? No, I didn't get nothing. I didn't get just my peoples.

[00:12:31] You know what I'm saying? That was with me day for day, but no, none of the people that I expected. So now I know who you are. Like that's cool. So you know what I mean? Now I can make my spiritual disconnect and not ever look back. You see what I'm saying? I think that's a good thing for you though. I think it's good. I think it is too. I think it is too. I think, I think I've outgrown that, that, that era. Right. I've outgrown that situation. It was a great situation toward the world. I made a name for myself.

[00:13:01] I had the most fun a human being biologically can have. Right. Physically by year. I'm dying, bro. So let me ask you something in this time, bro, are you being drug tested? Are you, can you, can you consume alcohol? Can you smoke a drink? Yeah, I could smoke, I could do all of that if I wanted to. At this time, at this two years, you can do all of that? What now? At this time? No, in the two years that they made you sit? Yeah, yeah, I could. I didn't get drug tested.

[00:13:30] I was just on house arrest. Oh, that's good. At least you could have a drink or something like that. at least I could like, like calm my mind. So it wasn't that big. Right. It was, it was more of a, of a, damn, the world is passing me by, then, damn, I'm locked down. And, because I was good. I was, I was calling the engineer over. Right. Come record when I get a vibe. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got your days where it's like, ah, yeah. But then, you know, you'd be like, yo, it's almost over at all.

[00:13:59] You just got to know you going through a process and it's almost over. It's almost over. Do, do we, do we, me, you, us, do we expect too much from other niggas to sometimes? We, what, what, what we expect, we expect ourselves out of other. We expect, what we give, we expect to receive. We expect them to feel the way we feel about them or, or, or what we do for them. We expect them not, we don't expect people to do nothing for us,

[00:14:27] but when they don't, it, it, it's like, damn, you know, you don't know what's not. Reason why I'm asking you that. Is it a closed mouth situation? Cause, cause niggas be trying to expect you to say, bro, you don't call me like, because nobody has to tell you, like, like right now, that one of your homies go through any hardship, anything you call. They don't have to tell you to call. But when you go through your car hardship, you don't get them calls. This is what I'm saying. But dudes will play you like,

[00:14:57] yo, if you needed me, you just, why do I have to call you to tell you? I need you. Is that's what I'm saying. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. I did call. And, and, and, and, and some words was said that is the fuel to my fire for this, to this day. So some things are kind of, you can't take back words, but you know,

[00:15:25] I know you ain't mean it type shit. Did you call somebody in particular? Um, yeah, but I don't, I ain't going to talk about it. You know what I'm saying? But it's just, it's, it's fuel for my fire. If you know, uh, I don't expect nothing, but at the same time, it just showed me, okay, that's how you feel. Right. That's who I am to you. And that's fine. That's cool. Cause now, like I said,

[00:15:54] my spiritual disconnect is real. I'll be forgetting a motherfucker exists. I be forgetting niggas is alive. Alive. See, I ain't going to hold you. I be like, yo, what? Oh, Oh, I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. That, that was a picture of me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I forgot. Like hat, like, like, like, what? Yo, no pun intended. God forgives. I don't, I'm just being real with you. No pun intended. I know. And that's how I used to be. And, but,

[00:16:23] but the, the more I go on my, my, my new spiritual journey, of, you know, uh, the Bible and Jesus Christ and, and all of that. I'm not perfect. I'm new, but, um, I am following trying as best as I can to follow the, the scriptures and the teachings and, and forgiveness is one of the biggest things that he said to do. And it's like, I ain't there yet.

[00:16:54] I ain't there yet. I salute you, bro. I ain't there yet. I don't know if I'm ever going to be there. Yeah. Yeah. You knew. Show me. Look, I'm a follow your lead. Show me. Yeah. Yeah. You show me when, when I see you forgive somebody, I could be like, all right, maybe it might be hope for me. I ain't there yet. I'm just keeping it real with you. Because it's like, especially when, when I did nothing, nothing intentionally wrong, malice, nothing to you.

[00:17:24] No, no, nothing. You know, I, I, I, I, I've committed, you know, the majority of my life to, to, to, to, to, to the situation. So, um, you know, it, it, it, it just shows who, who, who, who that person is when you, when you, when you need, need that person most or don't even, or, or just don't need that person, but just if a person don't even have, and acknowledge that it's a situation and it's like, all right,

[00:17:54] well then cool. That's, that's all right. Because when, whenever, whenever comes a time and I hope it won't, you know, and, uh, you know, I won't be the same. I would still help somebody. I would still help. I ain't there yet. No, I would, I would, that would be my doubt. That would be my forgiveness. You know what I'm saying? I would, I still would, because God says so though,

[00:18:25] because that's, that's a, you think if that's what, I don't do that to people. I don't shit on people. I don't. Right. Right. Be little people. I don't pillow talk on people. I don't gossip about people. I don't put potholes in people. Path. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, get thrills and enjoyment of seeing anybody close to me suffer in any shape, form of fashion. I don't,

[00:18:54] I'm just not that type of person. So for me to do that back to somebody and the, that would be two wrongs. Don't make a right type shit. And I, I just, you know, it's wrong. Right. It's wrong. If a person needs help, you help them if you can. And that's it. That's my, that's how I live. That's how I live, bro. So I'm not going to change that because somebody didn't do that for me. Let me ask you, you was a part of a conglomerate, bum rush, the industry.

[00:19:24] I didn't, me being from Brooklyn, I didn't see that about to happen. I just see this every day. I'm hustling. I see this crazy looking light skin dude, with this wild ass hair playing, just playing shotgun, like for real, for real. Um, then you are touring the world. Then you do have your situation, triple C's. And then you're,

[00:19:53] we know who you are. Oh, that's gunplay. That's the dude with the head. That's gunplay. When did it hit you? Like, hold on. I'm gunplay. Like I'm, I'm, I made it. I'm really somebody. When did it hit you? I don't know. It still ain't hit me, man. It's still, I'm, I still feel like, I still feel like you don't know who I am. I still feel like, you know,

[00:20:23] so that, that my hunger is still there. But when I did feel like, hold up, it's going to get a little easier to get some pussy. Yeah. Shit, nigga. Yeah. Once that motherfucking, Oh, I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you when they, when I knew it was going to get easier to get some pussy. When we was in LA, we just landed in LA. I think it was like our first run or second run, first,

[00:20:52] second run in LA. Chrome or something. Got off the plane. And fucking Moesha. Brandy. Fucking Brandy. Goodness gracious. Watch out for Ray J. You know, Ray J be tripping, but go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Fucking shout out to Ray J. Nah, okay. She ran up and was like, she saw Ross, she called Ross and she ran up, but then she stopped at me first and was like, come play. Goodness gracious. he gave me a hug. And I'm like, yo,

[00:21:22] this is Moesha. What the fuck? She's like, yo, I love your energy. Oh my God. Have you ever thought about doing a rap or doing an album or something? Cause your energy is just off the hook, man. And she was like, your hair is so original. I was just like, she was like vibing. I'm like, oh shit, bro.

[00:21:52] I'm going to the mint. Right. I'm going to the mint and I'm going to go get me some puss on face. On face card. So, so could we, could we educate the youth? So we know you. The mint is the strip club down here. Yeah. I'm not cause I didn't know what the mint was. I just deal with it. Before, before it was MMG, it was triple C's first, right? Or was it always MMG? it was triple C's. Triple C's. So this is something that y'all already always had.

[00:22:22] Or y'all put it together. Yeah. Triple C's would be yourself, Torch, Ross, and Youngbleed, if I'm not mistaken. Youngbreed. Youngbreed. My bad, bro. Always fucked that up. Yeah. Rest in peace to Youngbleed though. Right. You know, cause I was going, I do get their names fucked up. Um, so you're going to get a deal now, right? This, this is something that Josh Struction putting together album. How does that work? Are you signed to Def Jam?

[00:22:51] Are you signed to a production deal? What are you signed to? I'm signed to Maybach Music. And then I was signed to Def Jam. As the, the major, the major label distributor for Maybach Music. So Maybach Music has a functional record label. Or was it the homeboy hit me on the phone shit? No, it was a functional label at the time. I mean, by the time we roll, um, by the time every day I'm hustling hit. Right. Uh, you know, the, maybe the second,

[00:23:21] third album, second, third album, that's when Maybach Music was formed as a label. Cool. And then I got my contract. I signed to Maybach Music. And then after, then we got the deal with Def Jam for Triple C's. And then I got rolling. I got the rolling record with Waka. And that's when they played ping pong with me and then pause. And then fucking, that was it.

[00:23:49] And then I did my album three years after that, 2015. And I was done with Def Jam. So this is why I'm asking you this. And I went with Empire after that. So I'm asking you this because, so you, you have a functional record label with an office. MMG has an office. Somebody could go in and, and that's what I'm saying. There's no office. That's what I was saying about the homeboy phone call thing. So who is your point of contact when you dealing with your label?

[00:24:18] With Maybach Music? Yeah. Yvette? Yvette? Or, I don't know if you know Chris Atlas' wife. I know the name. I don't remember. I know Chris Atlas' name. From Def Jam. Yeah. She would be my point of contact. So that's Def Jam or MMG? That's MMG. So. But it's both. Right. See, this is what I'm saying. So if you had a meeting about your project.

[00:24:48] She the one got me my deal. With MMG or Def Jam. Okay. With Def Jam. So, reason why I'm asking you this because I want to educate the youth when they sign to their homeboys and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The good and the bad about that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You sign to your homeboys. So you, so if you had to go for a meeting about your vision or you want to go talk to your label and say, you know what? I got this solo.

[00:25:18] Where do you go to sit down and hold us meeting? You'll go and you'll talk to somebody over there either at a, you know, you'll talk to like one of the A&Rs. Of Def Jam? Of Def Jam. But that's not MMG though. No, it's not. That's what I'm saying. So you see the confusion. So you will go to the label, but then they will tell you to do, go to, go to talk to MMG. See what MMG is like when I, when it was my, when it was my go around,

[00:25:49] nobody did nothing. It wasn't like, so I had to go into the label myself. You see what I'm saying? That's why I'm asking all this question. I had to go into the label myself. And then that's when they told me to, you're assigned to MMG. We can't, we want to push the button. We hear the record on the radio every day. We know the records in the club rolling. We know you working it. I'll be, you be up here working it. We see you. You're on all the situations.

[00:26:19] You're hot. Ross got to press the button. You're assigned to Maybach music. And then you go there and then they tell you memories, whatever they want to do. We ready. And then they did. And nothing ever got. That's why I'm asking this because this is, this is almost two years, bro. Reason why this is so educational is because we are seeing this throughout the whole culture in the industry. Everybody who signed today, man, who got a label, who doesn't have a full functional staff of record label.

[00:26:47] you do get ping pong between the distributor, the mother company and your homeboy company. That's only, but see, you have different people. You have people. That want you to do good and want to put money in your pocket and want you to live out your dreams.

[00:27:38] Okay. You have to do good and want you to do good and want you to do good. You have to do good. yeah. So that was my situation. So, all right. Wait, let's say, uh, uh, Rockefeller. You got Rockefeller, you got death jam, but you know, Rockefeller got their own thing. You know, you got to talk to Dame. They had a full staff, you know, it was people. You never had, uh, MMG staff meeting. You look at everybody. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Nah,

[00:28:07] nigga. Everybody walks in the house and, and you, you were there to work for him. That's it. You're in that house to work for him. You ain't doing, doing nothing to push forward his situation and his visions and MMG. And you're not there. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody that walked through that though is, is, is. So if you want, you, you have to,

[00:28:36] get it on your own. Cause ain't nobody in there for, to do nothing for, I mean, they did a little something for me. Like, but it was, it was always, uh, you know, how do you win though? So how do you win? Go independent. Right. Because this is where I'm saying this, you signed to death jam. We're hearing, yo, this is gunplay. MMG death jam. Woo. You made it. You got it. You going to be able to get podiums on the road. You're going to get company calls. You're going to get everything.

[00:29:05] You're going to get snipes. You're going to get CMJ, Gavin. You're going to get all that college radio. You lit. But then he shook his head. No. So when you go to your label, they say, go to them. And they say, well, go back over here. And then when you go over here, you like, okay, who opens your budget? So Yvette was in a meeting with Steve Bartles. Okay. And the beginning of 2015, first quarter. Okay.

[00:29:35] And they talked about who they putting out this year. And Yvette spoke up for me and was like, we need to put out gunplay. He's had a record for the last year and a half on the radio. So they finally gave me a budget close to two years later. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, the record is gone. Right. You got to start. You know, there's being a novice in the, in the industry and rookie, not knowing, not knowing, you know,

[00:30:05] I'm not, nobody's telling me who to pay. I'm trying to pay payola, but nobody's telling me who. And it's all weird. And I'm like, my nigga, like, what is this dog? Like, you know what I'm saying? How do I get this shit? And then sometimes I'll be like, all right, I want to pay. I was going to pay. What's that nigga that always be screaming from Atlanta on the records? DJ. What's the most famous Atlanta DJ that did all the mixtapes again? What's his name? Greg Street.

[00:30:35] Not Greg Street. The other light skinned nigga that got the perfect beard all the damn time. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm from Brooklyn. what, you know, everybody know this nigga, man, a white boy, not white boy, but he. I don't know that nigga. I don't know that nigga. But him, yeah. He did all the Gucci shit, all the Gucci. Oh, oh, DJ Drama? Drama. Drama ain't white. Drama a nigga. Oh, well, well, yeah, yeah, he's, so. I think he half a nigga. Drama not black? I think he half a nigga.

[00:31:04] I don't know. Drama Indian or something, white or something anyway. But, but shout out to Drama. Hold on. Yes, yeah. Hold on, shout out, shout out to Drama though. Right, right, but, motherfucking, I'm like, yeah, shit, I'm one of the goddamn, I'm finna pay Drama to try to put this mixtape together. Gangster Graves. What? Right, what? What you, for what? Like, what? Like, uh, uh, uh,

[00:31:33] Then they go tell a nigga to invest in himself, but don't tell you how. To invest in yourself. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, you invest in your looks or whatever, I guess. I don't know, some more chains or something. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, they just give you a hint. Like, it's like some fucking gatekeeper knowledge shit. And I ain't with all that. You see, like right now, I just got put up on some, some business credit game and all of that shit. And you know what I'm doing?

[00:32:01] I'm not fucking hogging it. Right. Spreading the law. I'm giving it to my, I'm once this shit, once in 90 days, I'm about to figure something out. I'm figuring something out on some business shit. So I'm just like legal, all legal. Yo, you know what's sad? I'm like, hold on. You know what? I want to say that's sad because somebody like myself who don't have these big cosigns, I know that shit. So I would think you knew it. You understand what I'm saying?

[00:32:30] And one thing that I told my audience, I said, the biggest thing that I had problem that I have with black men and this culture is they don't give the education. It's like, what? Go figure it out or come under me and I'm a fool feed you. Other than that, go figure it out. But they, they make everything look good. And then you go on fucking blow bags. You want to blow 50 here. And then they like, yo, you blew the budget. I didn't know what to do with the budget. I didn't know what to do. Right.

[00:32:59] I didn't know what to do. You know what I'm saying? So you get the budget from Def Jam. They clear budget from you. So does it got to go to MMG and then they allot the money? Yeah. And then they come to me. So the money goes into escrow, right? And then everything you do gets invoiced to this account. Mm-hmm. To the account. So video, every video you do, every, everything gets to the account. My bill, my bill was took out of my account. Goodness gracious.

[00:33:29] My bill for 15,000. My bill was 150,000 when I was on the run for that armed robbery case because my record died down and I needed money and I had to get back to the street. That's crazy. How Buddy said, fucking streets, grind it up. Gracious. So I got back in the streets and I grinded it up and slapped the nigga with that iron and fucking went on the run. and then, and then fucking, like, I had to grind that shit out, bro. Like,

[00:33:59] man, that shit was crazy. So, so let me ask you something. You, I seen the interview that you did, dope interview, where you talked about this situation and you talked about, you know, Ross, you don't know what happened. You know what I'm saying? Like, you, you don't know what happened and he responded to you. Did you laugh at the response or was you just like, here we go? He's hilarious, bro. Like, he literally, if you was to spend an hour with dog

[00:34:28] and just, while he's just in the hotel room smoking and just on the phone talking shit, you, you would have abs, six pack when you're laughing because he's naturally hilarious, bro. I cannot even be mad. Like, I can't be mad, dog, because he just makes, he, if you try to, bro, is it a delusional hilarious though? Cause he, cause what I said about Ross, it's a delusional. Respectfully, I know that's your man,

[00:34:58] but I say Ross believe his own bullshit. That's hilarious. He just makes up shit and it'd be so funny. He'd be like, the label dropped you. You just ain't wanting to break your heart. I put out a whole album. Remember? Right. So, you know, he just trolled and being retarded, bro. That's why it's like, what do you mean that he didn't want to, the label never dropped me. I got a budget.

[00:35:28] I fulfilled my obligation and I left and went independent to death. I mean, to empire. No, he said, no, he said, death jam dropped you. He said, death jam dropped you. You know what I'm saying? What's that got to do with MMG? Huh? I'm asking what, cause I said to myself, well, what's that got to do with MMG? Take him somewhere else then. If he signed to you, right? Right. If I'm, I'm dog, where, where did they drop me? How did they drop somebody that they gave $75,000 to and put an album out under their,

[00:35:58] under their situation, under their label? Where's the drop? I only had a one album deal. When did I get dropped? That's what's, that's why I'm laughing so hard because it's like, it's obvious when, if I got a one album deal and I fulfill my obligation and I leave and go to empire to be independent. How did I get dropped? That's the part. That's why I laughed so hard because he's trolling dog. Right. Right. Right. He's trolling dog.

[00:36:27] It's just, but, but a lot of people, you know, when, um, when, when confronted with a truth, they, they tend to deflect. Right. Right. See, this is what my, my, my, my ex-wife would do. You see what I'm saying? I understand their mentality. So if you, if you bring forward,

[00:36:55] you can bring forward total evidence of fuckery that they did. And they'll be like, but what about you? But what about that time? That's narcissism. You know that, right? That's narcissism. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like, what about that time? And it's like, what? Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? Right. What? That has nothing to do with this. And then they'll make up something else. They have something,

[00:37:24] nothing to do with nothing and nothing. And then they, then they give you a word salad. Then they, then they, then they smooth talk. And then they try to manipulate that shit. That, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, I'm the type of person, right? I understand. And I see, um, people, right? I see people. I know people. I know how you operate. I know everything.

[00:37:51] So what I do is I have a mechanism in me that can adapt to anything. If, because if I have a goal and if at the end of it, if I have to walk over hot coals for this goal, I'm going to figure out how I'm going to walk over these hot coals. Right. And I know it's going to be hot. Right. But I got to get to where I got to go. No obstacle. I know. No obstacle is too hard.

[00:38:21] There's no obstacle. There's no brain manipulation. There's no psychological abuse you can do to other people. Yeah. Yeah. Cause they can't do what I do. Right. So motherfuckers be stuck. Where it's like, you just there dog. Damn. I can't leave because where I'm finna go. Right. Back to the,

[00:38:50] you see what I'm saying? Because look where that took you before. Look where it took you before. Busting somebody in the head with that steel. Look where it took you before. When you felt like you was at rock bottom. You understand what I'm saying? Exactly dog. Let me, let me ask you something. Um, when you have these major deals, were you released or you fulfilled the obligation? I fulfilled them. Okay. So when are you off MMG? I fulfilled it and I left. There was only one album. MMG was one album?

[00:39:21] No. MMG, um, I don't know how many albums MMG was after that deal. I, I, I, I, that MMG, uh, uh, contract was up. Okay. That MMG contract was up. Like, I think probably like right after that deal. So I was done. I wasn't, I haven't been signing MMG for. Shit. 11 years. Damn. I didn't know that. Yeah, man. I've been going. Wow.

[00:39:48] If you look at all my albums after living legend, it all says black Bilderberg group, which was the name of which, which was actual animal shelter. I remember that name turned out to be animal shelter. Right. Right. It was black Bilderberg group. Then you seen animal shelter. Right. And all my projects. If you look, you, you see that or empire empire, you see empire black Bilderberg group. And then empire animal shelter. And then now just animal shelter. Tough question.

[00:40:18] If right now, if you're working on a project and you call Ross, for a verse, would it give it to you? Would you think? I don't know. Hmm. Hmm. That's a good question. That is a good question. But the question is, do you give a fuck? Do you give a fuck? Go ahead. You got it. Right. This ain't our first rodeo together. Right.

[00:40:48] Um, you know what I'm saying? But that would, yeah, I don't know. I really don't know though. When it comes to music, the majority of the time, he rocks with me. You know what I'm saying? I would love to, we make good music. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like I give the different, I give the street side, he give the fancy side. It's like, you know, but I believe for real, like the way Meek Mills and him

[00:41:17] collide on records, I think that's really dope. Right. I think that, you know, you know when somebody could be like, yo, I believe that that's a better fit, pause, than, you know, something that I would do because I'm just, maybe I'm just, I think that's a great relationship sonically that they have. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? Because when it comes to music, that's one thing I'm going to give to all of them though. Niggas is nice. Niggas is nice. Niggas is nice. I ain't going, yeah, we ain't going to play that.

[00:41:46] We ain't going to go there. I'll put somebody up. Yeah, that's some hating shit. Yeah, if you say otherwise, you a hater. Yeah, you hate it. And you hate it, right. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? But, and I think, you know, but, I don't know, maybe shit, nigga, what if, oh shit, what if we did another Maybach compilation? Something. Something. That would be epic. Right. But, I don't know, you know. Time will tell. Time will tell.

[00:42:16] I miss my brother though, I'll tell you that. So y'all don't talk, y'all don't kick at nothing? Nah. Damn. It's cool though. Right, right. It's cool, I'm super cool. Bible on the dash is my shit, that's in my damn gym playlist. Where is, who owns that record? Is that's Def Jam record or that's yours? Um, yo, that shit, somebody own that shit. That shit is in the air, bro, cause I wrote that on the run, put it out on the mixtape, so that shit is just, who knows. So,

[00:42:46] go ahead. But I got, um, I'm claiming those songs on all those platforms and all the real shit, so I'm, I'm gonna be getting all of that in order pretty soon, you know what I'm saying? So all that money that was getting put out is sitting somewhere somebody else collecting it? Yeah, and I'm getting it. I got, I got, I got my peoples on it. I got 641 unclaimed records. Damn. 641 unclaimed joints, bro.

[00:43:16] Bible on the dash is my shit. Bible on the dash is a chunk of that shit. So that was on one of the 106 and Snort joints? That was, was it? No, no. Was it? Cause you did visuals and everything for that. I think, I think it was on one of them joints. I think it probably was, and it was on Ross's black bar mitzvah. Right. Okay. Yeah. He put it on there. That was, that was my promo. That was my promo.

[00:43:45] So that was your introduction supposed to be your introduction on his album or? I mean, not my introduction, but that, that was like, you know, the record buzz in. He put it on his shit. Help me out, I guess. He said, I guess. Your publishing, so you got all your publishing and everything? Nah. They, they had, they had sat us down and basically took,

[00:44:14] told us to sign this shit for publishing, to sell our publishing for 50,000. And they gave me 25,000 for the first triple C album and it's supposed to be another 25,000 for the second triple C album. But we never did a second triple C album and I ended up paying back 50,000 of the 25,000 that they gave me. So you, so then after that, huh? So they up on 25,000 on you? Yeah, dog, they got me for 25, bro. So then,

[00:44:45] fucking, Def Jam or MMG? Sony, ATV. Sony, okay, right, because they do publishing deals. Yeah, and then I got another one for like another 50,000 in like 2020 or some shit like that. Mm-hmm. We was talking about pub because I'm, like I said with you, unfortunately, you had to be the sacrificial lamb to learn what not to do now. And then we could educate some of the young guys that think this shit is a little bit more than what it really is

[00:45:15] because of who you standing next to, the labels that you so-called signed to, this shit ain't what they think. And I've been trying to tell them that for 20 years. So you are a living testament because we saw you on the jets. We seen you with the champagne. We seen you with all of that. And there's some highs to the game and there's some dark lows where you end up by yourself trying to figure this shit out. And that's where you at today. Go ahead. Yeah, you, you, you,

[00:45:45] I, uh, you gotta, when you get into this game, you're gonna be one or two things. It's only you can, you cannot do both. You either finna have you the time of your life for sure. Nowadays, it's a short period. We, we did this for a long time. Right. You see what I'm saying? I had fun a long time. Not, not these new motherfuckers. They ain't gonna have fun as long as I did. And that's no damn fact.

[00:46:15] But, you either gonna come in this shit and you're gonna have a fun for the most fun you've ever had in your life for a short period of time. Or, you gonna come in this shit and say, I'm coming in here for the money. Now, when you come in for the money, that good times and shit is gonna be knocking at your door. It's gonna, you're gonna be in the money house, but the good times are gonna be at the door like, yo, yo, yo, yo, come on, there's holes outside. They right here. Right, right, right,

[00:46:45] right, right. Come on. I got this for smoke. I got the new Molly. I got the new this. I got the new this. It's gonna be hard, bruh. So, you got to really focus, my nigga. Me? I said, cause I knew we was gonna be in here for a while. I already, cause our work ethic, our music, our connects, we're gonna be here for a while. So, I might as well get comfortable and have some fun. And that's what I did.

[00:47:14] I had all the fun in the fucking world. You know what I mean? Music or not, I'm always gonna get paper. So, I was never worried about that. When I did, when I was on house arrest and I had that, that auditor go through all of that shit and I found out everything, that's when I was like, okay, cool. Now I know my next step. Let me just go independent, make sure I got my shit all the way correct cause there's 13 steps that you have to do. There's 13 registrations for one song that you have to do

[00:47:44] before you even upload it to DistroKid. And you didn't even know that? You didn't even know that, right? No. You didn't know about sound exchange and none of that shit, right? I mean, I get sound exchange, I had somebody do my shit but they did it incorrectly. Yo, one misspelled word, money? They did all my shit incorrectly. So I still got, so these people are doing it correctly and they're, you know what I'm saying? Your meta tags, all of that is important. All that. You get paid for, you get paid for your lyrics, your lyric copyright checks. Right, right. Lyrical copyright checks.

[00:48:13] You get that, you get like, it's so much shit that you can get paid for so now everything I do will count. Right. You see what I'm saying? So I don't need to go platinum now. I don't give a fuck everything I do because my people that's doing this is getting little niggas out the hood that just upload they shit on Lil Distro Kid. They got a couple hundred, couple thousand views. Nothing crazy and they make a month, they make a G here, 1500.

[00:48:43] Stack all that from over here, from over here, stack all that. You keep going and the checks keep going. They get more and more and more. The longer you keep going, the more money you make a month. Right. But if you don't have anybody to streamline your music into one thing where all your shit is coming from different platforms into one thing, funneling into your direct deposit. Right, right, right. My man, you gonna be fucked up. Right. But as long as you know that, then you don't have to need nobody. Right. You see what I'm saying? I didn't understand that

[00:49:12] until I was on house arrest and my physical body was my money. So my money was locked. So I'm like, damn, I start panicking. I ain't gonna lie. I said shit. I need to start. I didn't start no business. I bought equipment to do barbecue shit. I started buying shit just to figure out, try to start a business or something. So I was like, all right. You know, that's when I did the, I started doing the,

[00:49:41] I got an investor and we got like three locations that we're about to open up for my baked and loaded luxury baked potatoes. Okay. With lobster, mac, surf and turf. Right. crab, shrimp, all that shit is on there. We got, we got a hundred dollar one called Baked and Bougie. We had a couple testings at the Lickin. You know what I mean? That's where,

[00:50:10] that's where we're gonna ultimately be, you know, that location over there in Miramar down here. Long story short, but I started that. Then I said, let me, let me learn about this music shit. So when I get out, when I get off this shit, beat this shit and I start my shit again, I'm gonna, everything I do put out has to count. If I sell 10,000, I need that money. If I sell, you know what I'm saying? If I sell 500, I need that little 500. Right, right. Whatever the fuck. So I know that

[00:50:40] if I keep going and I keep going, the money gonna get more and more and more and more every month. Yeah, every month. A year go by and nigga making 50,000 a month. Right, right. Who knows what a nigga made, 100,000 a month. Now we're talking million dollar shit. You see what I'm saying? I'm gonna get it regardless, bro. But it's the timing. My mind wasn't there and I didn't even care. Right. I didn't even care. I was having too much fun and I was, and I was still straight. Right.

[00:51:10] Up onto the, I just moved to Brickle with my wife, with my, I got a wife, got a child. Right. With or without fucking music, bro. But this time that was personal. Now it's like, oh, hold up. I want everything. They had everything out there for me. I want it all now. Now I want it all. Right, right, right. See what I'm saying? I'm gonna do my music. I'm gonna get all my music money. I'm gonna get everything, dog. Everything. You get money. You get paid. You get check. YouTube studio check.

[00:51:39] All that shit, bro. That's how I live my life. Come on, man. Come on, man. Now I'm missing out all that, all that. Right. Man, niggas is missing, bro. So that's why it's very important to get your digital business information of how to make your money independently. We call it digital real estate. Digital real estate, bro. That's what it's called. Yeah. You inherited a situation because y'all got physical.

[00:52:09] Would you say you and 50 Cent got problems today or you don't give a fuck about that? Nah, dog. I was a big fan. I'm still a fan of 50, bro. I never... My man problems is my problems. Right. Now, I'm older. I see ain't nobody finna... Ain't nobody finna... Ain't no real problems for real. Right. I don't got no problems. Right. You see what I'm saying?

[00:52:39] I would love to get a power cameo after I get my teeth fixed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you mean you could bump many men now and feel like it ain't the end of the way? I always did. I never had a problem with the nigga, bro. I used to love... Nigga, you understand there was a song on his second album called Something That's What You Bought for Me. That's What You Want for me, God. Yeah, that's what you want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's What You Bought for Me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about robbing and shit.

[00:53:09] And at that time... Yeah. Boy was on that. I told my dog that's locked up right now my nigga Rich. I told Rich, I say, dog, watch. I'm finna... There's a car lot that they had a red Monte Carlo. And I say, I'm finna get that Monte Carlo right there and I'm finna put this CD in when I'm driving off the lot. Watch me. Free 99?

[00:53:40] Nigga, I bust me a lick. Hit a nigga across the head for a couple pounds. Back in the day, it was... It was... What was the shit back in the day? What was that era? Talking about hydro? Purple or hydro? Hydro. Hydro and all that. White Widow and all this other stuff. White Widow again. White Widow again. White Widow all of that shit around that time. Bust a nigga across the head a couple times.

[00:54:10] Let me get that. When I pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, got me the car and I'm on the lot and I put in that fucking CD and I put in that song. That's what you bought for me. That's what you bought for me. Right. Bro! What you talking about? Yeah. Bro! He was speaking for us, bro! Right, right, right, right. Dog was on that for us, bro! We wanted... That was one of us. Right. You see what I'm saying? So...

[00:54:39] But I'm a loyal nigga and if I didn't know what the beef was and I don't ask. Right. I never ask him what the... I think I barely one time even attempted to and I felt weird. That's like... I felt like if you ask a nigga, if you got a problem with a nigga and if you... If I say your... Yo, your diamonds. Nigga, I got a problem with this nigga, dog. I need you to come through real quick, bro. Nigga just tried me over here, dog. And you be like, what happened? Hmm.

[00:55:10] Yeah. What happened? Now we go. Get your pussy ass off. First of all, I could see your facial expression. I'm gonna ask you what's wrong. Yo, what happened? You ain't gotta say nothing. I could see you on your face. Yo, what's good? I'm not gonna question you about nothing, dog. We're gonna just gonna handle it and then I'm gonna be like, what happened? Right. You see what I'm saying? Right. And nigga... So if it's a... You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna ask... I never asked what happened. I never... I just was hearing when they would do the interviews

[00:55:39] of what happened and I... It still wasn't clear to me then. Right. Like, what he did? And then they asked 50 and 50 was like, I don't fucking know. Yeah, I didn't know either. I'm like, I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I know we not going to war with this nigga because a nigga ain't sick. Something's up. There's something bigger than that, dog. What the fuck is going on, bro?

[00:56:08] Yo, can I tell you my secret? My... Well, this is my theory. Whenever dudes don't like another dude, there's always a bitch involved somewhere. Dumb chick pillow talk to another nigga and say she like the nigga. I know that, but see, but check it out, though. Ain't even finna go there. No, but I don't want to know about no bitch. It was? Oh, okay. It was another... Look, all right, look. I know I'm wanting about no bitch, bro. I know... And I feel like this because I know my brother

[00:56:37] and I know him. Dog... Dog... Dog... Dog got heart, right? Ross don't... Dog got heart. He don't get no fuck. He'll slap the biggest bully in the sandbox if he think he getting... If you think you bullying him. Mm-hmm. So at the time, they were trying to hit him with the CO bullshit and all of that. So he was like, oh, yeah, fuck that. Fuck that CO shit.

[00:57:05] What do we do? Deflect? Right. Fuck, nigga! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck. Yeah, yeah. Look at your shirt, nigga. Nigga, little fuck nigga left the trash at the gas can at the house. Right. He burnt your baby mama house. What? Right. Whatever. Let's fight. Let's go to war. You know what I'm saying? I think Ross made the most incredible music out of that shit, though. That was the... It was smart move. Yeah, that was most incredible music. I know he's a...

[00:57:35] He's a very strategic war god. Right. People don't know that about him. I don't know if I let the cat out the bag. So he's somebody that you really wanna. If you don't, that ain't... Both of them are like that. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? That's why I think none of them really... Because it's like... And then we know it's a lot of... I would love to see them just get together. Yo, I was gonna say that, bro. I thought y'all would've made

[00:58:05] a lot of incredible shit together. Yeah. I fucking hate that. We got cheated, though. I feel like we got cheated. The fans got cheated out of good music. We got cheated. We got cheated out of not one, only good music, but the possibilities of those two business-minded men Black men. Coming together and what they can... How far they can push this culture to something that our minds can't even fathom. I wanna ask you, did doors get closed for you in certain situations? Did certain people

[00:58:34] not wanna fuck with you because of that? Because 50 was very powerful business-minded and everybody was like kinda kissing his ass like anybody who he had beef with. They were closing doors. It was one time they didn't let me up at Shade 4-5. Yeah, you ain't getting in there. That's M&M label. M&M regular stations. But they let me back in. They let me back in. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But at one point they were like, no, I was like... Right. Get out of here.

[00:59:04] Let me in here before a nigga walk through the door on my own. Right, right. I got work to do. I have to promote. Could you tell the people your New York roots? Oh, my New York roots. They don't know. Y'all don't know my... Yo, y'all don't know my up top bop, son. They might think you just a Florida dude. They don't know. They might think you a Texas and then a Florida dude. I was born in Texas, El Paso, Texas. My mother and father were in the military. My father was from

[00:59:33] the Bronx, Puerto Rican. My mother is from Queens, Jamaica. She's Jamaican. So they were both in the military, had me, got divorced when I was three, moved back to New York, both of them. So I would be on in Queens with my mom during the week in South Ozone Park and I'll be going to school in Laurelton. Wow. L-Town. Shout out to L-Gang. Yeah, that's L-Gang. Then I'll go back and forth. I went to PS156 and I went to Linden SDA

[01:00:03] in elementary. Like my first couple years, like to third grade and then I went to... No, the fourth grade and then I went PS156 for fifth grade. I was in 50 class in PS156. Yeah. And then I moved to Miami. But when I was 10 years old, yeah. As you... So I'll be on the Bronx on the weekends with my old boy. We would go on the Bronx Queen. It was like a boat that would be right there in that little river shit. I don't know.

[01:00:32] It's like a spot over there. I don't know if y'all see it. But there used to be a boat there and it was called the Bronx Queen. And the one weekend I didn't go because I went to Ride Playland with my old boy. He would always take me out for the weekend. Whatever I wanted to do. I would go to Ride Playland and I went that weekend and that boat sank that weekend too. Goodness gracious. Yeah, dog. So he kept the news clip. He got it still to this day. He kept the news clip of how that shit sank. And yeah. So I would be in South Bronx,

[01:01:02] Tenton Avenue, Forest Projects, apartment 5H, that corner building right there. That's where Fat Joe from. Yeah. Yeah. You talking some real New York shit so you know about the subway and everything. You know. Yeah. I would be... I would walk down to Fordham with my grandmother. Is it Fordham? No, or 3rd Avenue? 3rd Avenue. Was it? I don't know about the Bronx. I'll tell you about Brooklyn. I think 3rd Avenue that she would always used to be like, you want to come down to 3rd Avenue with me, Richie? And I'd go down with her and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:01:32] My grandmother, man. I love that lady. God bless her dear, man. You know y'all Puerto Ricans they say grandmother. What you saying, really? My abuela. Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. Keep it real. Let me talk about your grandmother. Yeah, but I was so Yank-ified. I was so Yankee, dog. I always... I used to... Grandma. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grandma Rose. That's what I call her. Grandma Rose. Right, right, right, right. Grandma Rose. I love me some Grandma Rose. 2026. You're independent. You don't owe nobody no contractual obligations. Right.

[01:02:04] Shout out to the... Perfect time to start over. Shout out to the homie Savage, too. Yeah, shout out to Baby Savage. Yeah, man. I need y'all to put this in the beginning of the... of the whatchamacallit2s, man. Go ahead, go ahead. Um... If y'all looking for booking or anything from me, hit up Baby Savage, at Baby Savage God of Grind on Instagram. If you go on my bio, his phone number is in there. Okay. You hit him up for all the features,

[01:02:35] uh, all the... podcast interviews, drops, new music, anything you need. Shout out to, uh, uh, Baby Savage. So shout out to Baby Savage because I hit him up and I was like, yo, I got to get back on these streets, man. I got to get back outside. And, man, he's been going above and beyond the Call of Duty. Nigga, diligent. Nigga, yo, bro, let me tell you something. That nigga hit me and said, yo, didn't you do something with Gunplay? I said, yeah. He said, yo, I need you to do something tonight.

[01:03:04] I'm like, tonight? You know me. I'm like, fuck it. We ready. So we here. Shout out to Baby Savage. He put all of this together and he's very, very on top of Gunplay's business. I've never had nobody do this much work for me in my life. Wow. Ever. Ever. Everybody, like most, like most of the managers that I had, well, I'm not going to lie. I had one, Diesel. Right. Shout out to Orlando. He was definitely a hard worker. You know what I mean?

[01:03:34] That's my guy right there. I can never leave Diesel out. Diesel was definitely, he reminds me of Savage. Right. But Savage is definitely, has been putting in some real work, man. Right. Real hours, man hours. Right. And setting up these interviews and getting these regions, these different podcasts, these different influences, blogs, all of that, man,

[01:04:04] I just, I've been having like listening parties for my EP, stuff like that. So he's been very instrumental, man, on this new Gunplay comeback. What's just social media? At Not Gunplay Again. Okay. Yep. And his phone number is in there at Baby Savage God of Grind. Right. And we doing this virtual, but we should be sitting down in like another month or something like that when we leave. Yeah, I think I'm coming up there real soon.

[01:04:34] Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna leave. So let me ask you this, the EP, what's the name of it? What's going on with the EP? EP is called This Time is Personal. Mm-hmm. And if you listen to Bleed Seven Days, which is the last single I put out, and if you like Bible on the Dash, then you know this is a very serious album. It's one of those. It's five Bible on the Dashes. You said five. To me. Right. Yeah.

[01:05:04] On production, do you outsource to other dudes or do you just like get the local dudes? I got five different producers on there. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? So I got D-Day from New Orleans. Mm-hmm. I got Max from Max Perry from The Bay. Mm-hmm. I got They're Gonna Kill Me. Damn it. I got who else I got there? That nigga? Yeah. Oh, man.

[01:05:34] I forget, man. Oh, man. I got Mad D-Day. Damn, I can't remember right now, but it's just they're all all my my my my uh producers that I rock with. I just wanted to get a different their I wanted to get their Pain music. Right. So I had them go give me Pain music and I got one from the best one from each one from different regions of

[01:06:04] the United States of L.A., Louisiana. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. I can't remember the rest, but they're all from different and it and it came together so beautiful, though. Do your sound have a and the body the body of the works when you hear it you'll be like, yo, nah, you can't skip. You just let it play. Do your sound have a a a a title now? Because you know remember at one point we had Crunk Pain music. We said Pain music? This is Pain music. Okay. Okay. This is all Pain music, but it's not

[01:06:35] I'm a victim. Pain music is betrayed. I was betrayed. You said at one point Pain music is a betrayal I know all too well. Because you said at one point like DMX was like your spirit animal shit like you felt X like is it? Yeah, it was. So I had to tap into my DMX a little bit but I gave it polish. It's polished. Right, right. It's evolved. Right.

[01:07:03] It's introspective. It's yeah, it's dope. I'm telling you. When is it dropped? And it's only five records. When is it dropped? In May. Okay. Yeah, in May. All DSPs. All DSPs. All DSPs, right? Yep, yep. All DSPs. Yep. So and it's going to count this time. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. We're going to see how it looks. You being having the New York

[01:07:33] roots you ever rap to any boom bap shit? Boom bap? Like what you mean? Old school boom bap? No, like some Pete Rock shit or some Primo or could you? I would love bro. That's what I'm saying. I know what's in you. I would love a Primo record. What? I'll go crazy on a Primo record, bro. I'll go all that New York shit, bro. All that New York style vibes.

[01:08:02] I'm on that. I'm on like the 90s, 2000, whatever. I'm on that. Like I'm just I'm about to do Smooth the Hustler. That's my bro. Brooklyn. I'm about Broken Language. Browns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm about to do that. Yeah, yeah. That's DR period. What? I could call DR period. I'll get you in contact with the person who did the beat. That's DR period. What? That's Brownsville, Brooklyn. Bro, that beat right there, dog.

[01:08:32] You know who will lace you to? That's forever a banger. Eric Sermon will lace you. Oh, I would I would go crazy on the Eric Sermon record because he got that smooth style. Right, right. It's like smooth hip hop. Right, right. But then he could do shit like the headbanger. Headbanger. Oh, like headbanger. Yeah, he could do headbanger. Like Redman. Yeah, yeah. You could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. I'm going to run. I know all that shit, bro. Yeah. You know what else DR period did? You know,

[01:09:02] so you said Smooth the Hustler. He also did Annie Up for M.O.P. Annie Up. What? That's the same person. Yeah, that's DR. Damn, he's special, bro. Yeah, he did it. He did more money for AZ and Nas. More money, more murder, more homicide. He did that beat too. Oh. That's DR period, yeah. Oh. Yo, yeah, yeah. I might need to see what he talking about, bro. He did Hey Ma for Cam too. Hey Ma, what's up? He did that beat too. He did? Yeah, it's DR period. Oh, I need to rock with dog.

[01:09:31] You know what else he did? M.O.P. How about some hardcore? Yeah, we like it raw. Bro, yeah. Yeah, that's DR period. Brownsville, Brooklyn. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's definitely a legend, bro. Right. So, what do you think is going to take for you to be legendary or do you feel you are? My transformation, once you see

[01:10:03] I basically change my name to Don Logan and don't address me as Gunplay anymore. Okay. That's what, you know, and it's coming real soon too. It's going to be a big old announcement. I'm going to do a big thing about it. I might fuck around and go to the DMV and change my name to Don Logan. For real. And show that shit on my L's like, what's up? Like, boy, this is a whole new nigga. Don't call me. I mean, you can call me, Gunplay. It's cool. I'm going to respond, but I'm not going to dap you up. I'm still going to I'm going to shake your hand.

[01:10:33] I'm only shaking hands now. Right. I don't want no more dap because the way I'm going to be dressing, you're not even going to want to dap me. Right. Right now, I'm in my grind mode. That's why I'm rocking my hoodies all the time. That's why I've got my animal sheltered because I'm in total grind mode. Right. But once I once I once you once you once you can hear me coming, walking, because my hard bottoms is clacking on some marble flow or something on some tile or some shit, some wood.

[01:11:04] clack clack clack clack clack clack. Nigga, teeth is just nigga, waves is going. Nigga smelling like, what is that? Right. Nigga, tailor made shit. Shit's nice and neat. Nigga's no hanging shit. Right. Nigga. You know what I'm saying? Nigga, no wrinkles up under nigga arm. Nigga, that shit look good. What? What? And I'm Don Logan. That's when you know. When did you why did you when did you why did you cut the hair? Was you one day just like My mind frame.

[01:11:34] My mind frame. My hair was what my mind was. My hair was just you know what I'm saying? Right. You see how Kodak act? Right. He don't act, but you see how Kodak is? Yeah. You see how his hair is? That's my mind frame. That's where I was. Once I cut it, I was just like right. Chillin', dog. Now I want to you know what I'm saying? I'm starting to like, okay, let's do something different. Let's start growing up now. That's what made me had a midlife crisis. That's what made me

[01:12:03] want to get married and shit. Right. What's that call where y'all from? That hairdo. That hairstyle. I didn't say hairdo. Wicks. Wicks. Oh, okay. Because I don't know. What the fuck around with these niggas? These niggas is crazy. I was the first one with it. I was going to say wasn't you the first one with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So is that what the hood do or they saw you do it and everybody do it? Nah, that's the hood thing. I saw them do it. Right. That's a Miami thing. Miami. Okay.

[01:12:33] It's a Florida thing for real. Florida. Gold teeth and that hair. Gold teeth and wicks, man. Wicks and goals, dog. Right. That's all you strive to get when you was young, bro. I got to get a wall and I got to sprout. You know what I'm saying? You got to get the day laws. They call it day laws when they like little and then you get them when they sprout. Rest in peace, the true boy, the dove from De La Soul. Yeah, that's the reason he had to just. That's where we get it from. They loud. That's why I got to do it. Miami,

[01:13:03] if you, y'all got a lot of, yo, you know who's my fucking favorite, one of my favorite rappers from out there? JT, not J, JT Money. Love JT Money, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love JT Money. Yo, who that, who that, yo, ah, yeah, yeah. That's my shit, man. We love JT here, man. He's definitely a living legend out here, man. I talk to him all the time when I see him. He, he, he good dude right there, man. We had plenty of nights, man,

[01:13:33] just smoking, man. And just, and after I was talking, man, and I'm just picking his brain about, about the old days and how that shit was. And I love hearing the OGs tell the stories and shit, man. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody I grew up around was older than me, man, but, you know, when I was young and shit. So I would hear all they stories and shit like that. So sitting down with a legendary JT and hearing the Miami Pac-Jam stories and shit like that.

[01:14:03] You know, we love that shit in New York, right? That JT, JT Money shit. We love that shit. Yeah, for sure. Because he probably don't know that we love that shit up here. You know what I'm saying? We love that shit. Like, even like the, the, the athletes like Edron James and people like that. Yo, we love that shit up here. You know what I'm saying? We love that shit up here. Um, anybody that you would like to collaborate with that you didn't do a record with? ESTG, uh, Kodak Black, Phelan's Two Times. Mm.

[01:14:34] Yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. Production. Any producer that you would love to work with besides the pre-mails and all. Uh, Let the Bands Play. What did, what did they do? Because I don't know who that is. What would they do that I know? He, he produced for Key Glock. Okay. Okay. Fucking nasty, bruh. motherfucking Metro Boomin. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Uh, there's a couple new, new producers, man, that, uh,

[01:15:05] I wanna, uh, work with. I don't really know their names, but they be making them beats for, what's that song? Um, Don Tolliver. I know the name. Yeah. He made beats for Don Tolliver and the other, the other dude, there's another dude, Lith. Not familiar. Lith. Yeah. He's a new nigga thing. Right. It's a subculture. You go look him up.

[01:15:35] You go look up the song Cannonball. Cannonball. Okay. Will do. Let me ask you something. Who the hell is the Justice League? Who is that? Some producers. Yeah. They did a lot of raw shit. Why you ain't never linked with them? They got that pain. So you never, you, they ain't send you no pack. You can't get a pack. What budget?

[01:16:04] Regardless. Yeah. But I did niggas be having beats that day. Cause they know what was going to come out of it. Damn. We need a budget. Damn. We can do all those shits we want. Where's the money? Yeah. So. All right. And they was charging. I'm going to say, they going to eat your damn budget. You ain't, they going to eat your budget. Exactly, dog. Damn. There wasn't no budget. Right. Triple C's budget for production. We went and got spun, I think 50,000.

[01:16:34] And got all the songs from Shice. Okay. I don't, I don't know how much they paid. It wasn't no, no, nothing crazy, but got all the songs from Shice. Okay. So we didn't get no production, like from no big producers and nothing like that. Hmm. You know what I mean? I feel like, cause I feel like if you fuck with the Justice League, they could give you that, that, that Tony Montana, Don Logan shit you talk about. Yeah, nah, we ain't get that shit. Big, like this, you know what I'm saying?

[01:17:04] But Shice, Shice's production was dope too, though. But you know, if we would have, we could have probably, you know, showed a different, gave a different energy on the records, but who's, who knows? Right. It was, it was a dope project that we did. I had fun doing it. You know what I mean? Now we in 2026 in May. This time is personal. Mm-hmm. Is the EP.

[01:17:33] Do you have a date or are you just saying May? May. May. Okay. I'm just saying May. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a tell the date probably at the end of this month. Okay. So we could, we could let everybody know what, at the same time. Um, all your social media, tell them that again. At not gunplay again for all booking at baby savage, God of grind. So that's what it is, bro. Um,

[01:18:03] next time we together, we going to be in person. I think on, according to Savage, we might meet in Atlanta. Okay. We might meet in Atlanta in May. And I got some other, other podcasts. I can link you with all my homies. So I'm talking to Savage. Matter of fact, matter of fact, I already, I already did something for you. Uh, with, with, I'm not going to say cause niggas be hating. Um, already hooked you. I already spoke to Savage three way them. That's what he said. Yo, hold on. That's how we do that. No,

[01:18:32] we got everybody on the floor and we outside with it like that. So in Atlanta, we should have, uh, the gangster Chronicles should be there. You should do that. I'm going to film that myself. I'm filming that for you. You know what I'm saying? And, um, I got the DJ eyes over here. So I'm making y'all filming y'all. I'm getting behind my cameraman thing. So your press when I'm around is covered. Cause I'm going to be on the camera, making sure everything is right myself. So me and Savage got a great relationship as far as, um, doing what we need to do for you. You know what I'm saying?

[01:19:01] And he was like, yo, did you call, come play hit me this morning. And then you hit me this morning. I said, what the hell are you doing up? So really say, yo, I get up at four in the morning. So gunplay, he says no matter what. Yeah. So yo, bro, as always, I appreciate you. We always make magic. I hear your name. Right. Uh-huh. Let me say this dog, because I won't be able to sleep tonight. I don't know if it was a, as a game that they played down here. I don't know. Cause I was in elementary in New York,

[01:19:31] but there was a game called doggy, doggy diamonds. Diamond says to, that's, that's where it comes from. Right out. That's where it comes from. That's why, that's why I took that name. So real quick, that's when you play tag. That's when you play tag. You choose to see who's it. Who's it. Right. So me as a music producer, I'm doggy diamonds. I choose to see who's it. If I fuck with you, you going to be it. You know what I'm saying? So, and then, you know, yeah, so that's, that's why I chose that name. That's why, you know,

[01:20:00] that's why, that's why my name is doggy diamonds. But my name was already dull. And, you know, I got peoples, this is the diamonds family. So it, it, it all makes a lot of shit. It's a little bit of street shit, hip hop shit. And you could go to doggy, doggy diamonds. It says to, yep. It is absolutely that. Absolutely. And the other thing was, you sell to me in 10, 10 million records. You go diamond. I just be like, if I do your beat, you're going to go diamonds. Exactly. So it was all,

[01:20:30] you, you, you are absolutely right. That's why my name is that. Yeah. Yeah. All right, bro. So, yo, I appreciate you as always, you know, this ain't no sucker weird internet shit. we actually text, but I appreciate you. And we going to make sure this project is successful. As long as I got anything to do with it. Shout out to you up there when I release it, man, that week I release it. I want to do all my press up there that week. I got,

[01:20:59] we got some book for you too up there. We already got one booked up for you. So, um, okay. You, you'll get the call when, when Savage, uh, I just think I just one tweak they got to do. We need to do, um, listening parties to where I, wherever you listen, we going, we going to talk offline. We going to make a lot of shit happen. And we could do, and we could work on virtual listening parties too. Like here where we grab everybody in, you know what I'm saying? You know, I know how to do all this digital crazy shit. That's the way,

[01:21:28] that's what we need because this is not just a guns blazing album. This ain't a get high album. This ain't a ride around bitch with the hose album. This is a, this is a nigga tried me, bro. And I got the, my nigga, you tried me, bro. Everybody tried me, bro. And this is how I feel about it. Yo, can't wait. I can't wait to hear it. So, um, I appreciate you, bro. As always. Thank you. Until next time I am out of here.

[01:21:58] Gunplay. We holler. Yes, sir. Yup. Salute brother. Listen, man. And if you want to be a part of my network and you need promotion, just hit me up at doggy diamonds on Instagram. It's only a hundred dollars for the posts. That's to get on my YouTube community, my Instagram stories, my threads, my Twitter account. And I just created a personal doggy diamonds, Facebook page. And you can get on all of that for a hundred dollars, whatever you need. And also look, man,

[01:22:28] if you want to get input interview, just the way gunplay just got interview, just hit me up on doggy diamonds. And well, or I G listen, you can get a 35 minute interview and you get to social media promo. I just told you about it could be live stream on tape and an additional guest could be in your interview. Just hit me up on I G at doggy diamonds until next time. Peace.