Afrobeats Is Annoying And Trying To Replace Hip Hop! Enough Already!
Doggie Diamonds No FilterJune 05, 202401:06:27

Afrobeats Is Annoying And Trying To Replace Hip Hop! Enough Already!

Welcome to Doggie Diamonds TV, your source for the most controversial and thought-provoking hip-hop discussions! In this episode, Doggie Diamonds addresses the growing presence of Afrobeats in the music scene and its perceived attempt to overshadow hip-hop. Is Afrobeats really replacing hip-hop, and why is this causing so much tension in the music industry? Join Doggie Diamonds as he dives into this heated topic and shares his unfiltered opinions. Tune in with Doggie Diamonds as he explores the impact of Afrobeats on hip-hop and why many fans and artists are feeling frustrated. Doggie Diamonds TV brings you the raw, unfiltered truth about the music industry and its evolving dynamics. If you want to stay updated on the latest debates in hip-hop and music culture, be sure to subscribe, hit the notification bell, and share your thoughts in the comments below.

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[00:00:17] Okay, enough is enough.

[00:00:21] I told y'all a long time ago

[00:00:24] That I didn't like that Tim stuff. I told y'all I was tired of these chicks touching their hair

[00:00:30] They dry-ass weaves or they all got braids because they're going on vacation

[00:00:35] So they can't get their hair wet so they get braids and they all touching their hair today

[00:00:39] These are the things that you cannot but who would have knew that that music was gonna go on to be afro beats

[00:00:46] Who woulda knew I didn't like that in the beginning. I was tired of that music. I

[00:00:52] Didn't like it and then what sealed the deal was when this dude named Burner boy came out and he started rapping to sitting on

[00:00:59] top of the world by Brandy and Mase and he was like

[00:01:06] I was like, yo, what is he saying? You just hear

[00:01:14] Like yo, what is he saying

[00:01:16] What is he saying and you see people jamming to it. I'm like burner boy

[00:01:22] So at first I thought I liked I was like, okay

[00:01:25] This is some reggae music I thought dudes was West Indian

[00:01:35] But they taking the reggae music

[00:01:41] And calling it something else but taking our beats taking reggae music and calling it afro beats

[00:01:48] Come on, man

[00:01:52] Enough of that

[00:01:56] Enough of that. I'm tired of it

[00:02:00] You're gonna take our music and then try to remix it to something else and then they gonna say yo the labels don't even want hip-hop

[00:02:07] They just want afro beats and Latin music. What the hell is afro beats and Latin music without hip-hop?

[00:02:16] Even reggae tone was taking reggae music. Hold up. I pause. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on

[00:02:23] I don't know why that's happening. I'm gonna fix that

[00:02:35] But I'm tired of it. I thought it was right guy. You know what they were saying? Oh, I barely understand

[00:02:40] What's up, Wes? Any artists be singing?

[00:02:44] But then out of nowhere it was just like

[00:02:48] Then I listened to

[00:02:50] Then I'm listening to

[00:02:53] Drake and

[00:02:55] in

[00:02:58] In a future and they got Tim's on there and she like

[00:03:09] For you for you

[00:03:12] I'm like, what is this?

[00:03:16] What is she's what it's good. Somebody decipher what she's saying. How does that how does that?

[00:03:24] Replace hip-hop

[00:03:31] I'm like, who is that Jocelyn and

[00:03:40] I hear all you hip-hop dudes trying to jump on the bandwagon and do afro beats in the band in this

[00:03:46] I'm glad I'm glad you're doing it. We gonna write all y'all name down

[00:03:51] Tell me what they saying on that song

[00:03:54] What is she saying?

[00:04:01] You don't know nothing they saying I mean that's supposed to replace hip-hop that's supposed to replace broken glass everywhere people pissing on us

[00:04:11] That's that's that's supposed to replace that

[00:04:16] That make me make me harder

[00:04:20] Make me I'm like yo

[00:04:23] Yeah, I like that

[00:04:28] That's cool. Do y'all thing and it would have been okay if they didn't come for hip-hop

[00:04:34] If they wasn't saying that they didn't want to get rid of hip-hop and replace it with that

[00:04:39] They're not looking to sign no more hip-hop acts. They just want to deal with that music

[00:04:45] Got here with that. I'm listening to super cat. I'm listening to a

[00:04:53] Shop of ranks and all that

[00:04:57] What is she what she said make make me harder make make me harder

[00:05:02] What is he saying? Could somebody tell me?

[00:05:06] What they're saying

[00:05:08] Is he saying make me swim make me harder? What is he saying pause? No, did he know BAM would know none of that?

[00:05:15] I ain't listening to none of that. I

[00:05:21] Ain't listening to none of that and it's like they make one record and then he like a superstar

[00:05:28] Trash not for that

[00:05:41] He looked like he from Atlanta somewhere right from no Atlanta or nothing

[00:05:47] Hey jack and I swag around the world

[00:05:53] They jacking us

[00:05:55] So my we ain't got no culture and none of that whatever

[00:06:02] You don't care how none of y'all kid I don't care what none of y'all say I don't care I don't like it I

[00:06:09] Don't like it

[00:06:12] I'm tired of it. I

[00:06:15] Don't understand shit they saying

[00:06:19] This is a thing

[00:06:20] I always think she's saying this is the thing that you cannot buy the whole time

[00:06:24] She was saying this is the piece that you cannot buy and all y'all four or five baby father

[00:06:30] ten kid run around dudes with like

[00:06:33] 12 baby mothers sipping lean is sitting there talking about this is the piece you cannot buy no pieces in your brain

[00:06:39] Ain't no record gonna give you no piece you sitting on the beach. You're a firm trip

[00:06:43] You sitting on the beach acting like you doing something great fuck out of here with that

[00:06:48] This is the piece that you can't know. What is this shit?

[00:06:52] Then is one song I don't know what she's saying she like

[00:06:56] Sound like a moose and heat or something like they ever heard a cat out the window just now

[00:07:01] That's what I hear when I hear all that

[00:07:04] That's what I hear when I hear that's what I hear

[00:07:08] Tired of all that shit tired of it

[00:07:15] Enough is enough and then you got some of them who come into our culture and say we don't have no culture

[00:07:20] Buster Buster rhyme said that black Americans. We don't have no culture

[00:07:24] Like hip-hop is the only culture we have

[00:07:28] Nigga you in our culture

[00:07:31] You in our culture talking about we don't have no culture

[00:07:41] I gotta hear man tired of all that

[00:07:53] Cuz when I first when the beat first came on I was like yo, oh shit Brandi sitting on top of world

[00:07:59] I used to like that shit, but then there's just like this dude just coming

[00:08:07] Thank you

[00:08:08] What is this shit?

[00:08:11] Who is that? It was like burner boy. I always got these weird and burner boy

[00:08:19] burner boy

[00:08:22] How do you need a shot three days later

[00:08:27] Go see the doctor

[00:08:32] I'm sick of this

[00:08:33] Okay, which I say, okay. I'm used to standing alone. I thought things out by myself

[00:08:40] Anyway, I don't need to come Padre a friend of Vato. I don't need a buddy. I don't need a homeboy

[00:08:46] I don't need none of that. I'm

[00:08:49] Listening, I'm alone in it

[00:08:52] straight like that

[00:08:54] But I'm tired of it

[00:08:58] Every song you think is

[00:09:01] In out of nowhere you you got you got these people who are

[00:09:08] Acting like they jacking it get out of here like

[00:09:12] Cuz they be singing about love and all this to make it out. It's like they don't so they don't cheat

[00:09:18] They're all in peace

[00:09:20] And why is Tim's crying in every song in audible cries?

[00:09:26] And audible

[00:09:28] No, I listen to that one day and I'm gonna put the captions on cuz I need to learn what they sing

[00:09:35] All I heard was

[00:09:49] We barely understand future

[00:09:51] We barely understand future and then you got this can am connection do just come on there he like

[00:10:04] I'm like, oh Danny three people crying on a record

[00:10:09] Inaudible the whole time I got I get a sign language something. Come on, man

[00:10:17] Come on, man. They don't even like the continent, but they like the music cuz they try and take us out

[00:10:24] But they like the music cuz they try and take us out I'm telling you this is the ploy to get rid of this man

[00:10:31] It's a ploy. They told you don't look it up. I did a show on this

[00:10:51] Telling you

[00:10:53] What are they saying

[00:10:57] Tell me what they saying

[00:11:00] No, no, don't don't bro. Grow up. Stop hating learn to tolerate afro be first of all

[00:11:06] Don't tell me what to learn to tolerate and don't tell me to grow up. This is my opinion

[00:11:11] So your name is Freeman and then that other

[00:11:14] Would you just scramble letters and made a name?

[00:11:18] What is your name mean Freeman told Jim or told Jack

[00:11:24] Bro grow up stop hating so anytime you express your displeasure with something

[00:11:30] You're hating again. I'm gonna use the analogy again

[00:11:33] You might like extra mayo on your sandwich because you know, you're from a certain genre. I don't like mayo on my food

[00:11:40] So if you put mayo on your sandwich and I say now I don't need no mayo

[00:11:45] Are you gonna look at me and say stop hating on mayo? No, it's called preference

[00:11:50] Just like you got that preference or what you like. I don't like your preferences. That's not hate. I

[00:11:57] Just don't prefer what you preference

[00:11:59] That's it

[00:12:01] It's called preference we do have a preference you do know that right? It's like you prefer

[00:12:20] Tolerated bro grow up. So now I'm 14 cuz I don't like afro beats

[00:12:25] I'm a whole grown-ass man with responsibilities and take care of himself and others

[00:12:30] And you telling me to grow up and you probably live with your mama

[00:12:34] You probably live off a fat white girl with blonde T bars haircut

[00:12:42] That's always in Walmart and you telling me to grow up

[00:12:46] Your name is Freeman

[00:12:53] We got a preference and

[00:12:55] Preference and see that's the problem when you don't follow the script people say you grow up hating they say all this

[00:13:03] No, it's not that I don't like it. I

[00:13:06] Don't like chicken legs

[00:13:08] You're gonna eat all the chicken legs you want the barbecue you having legs and thighs more food for y'all

[00:13:13] Guess who's gonna sit this one out me. I don't like potato salad

[00:13:19] Some of y'all put raisins in your potato salad, I don't like potato salad it's called preference

[00:13:27] That's why this is my platform and I use my platform to say what I don't prefer or prefer

[00:13:34] That's that but the senses that I've been getting back is people saying I don't like it either

[00:13:40] Who else has a platform to say they don't like a type of music. I guess I'm supposed to be gossiping tonight

[00:13:46] I guess I'm supposed to be talking about Nicki Minaj getting detained. I don't care. I

[00:13:54] Don't care about that. I just really don't

[00:13:57] You think I'm gonna sit here and talk about nah, you know and I that inaudible shit she be doing too I

[00:14:09] Don't listen to inaudible people. I

[00:14:12] Have to understand I can't leave feeling dumb

[00:14:18] You hear I'm speaking clear and concise

[00:14:22] It's called preference I prefer not to listen to that

[00:14:26] Seriously

[00:14:29] All I gotta say is we need to stick together black music is black music. Oh, really

[00:14:34] That's what you think black music is black music

[00:14:39] So you give me one genre of music that's not black music

[00:14:43] It all derives from us

[00:14:46] Well, ain't no sticking together with people who don't want to be stuck

[00:14:50] We see that's the problem too. Y'all like to paint us all as a monolith like we all the same people

[00:14:55] We ain't all the same people

[00:14:58] We know all the same people some people don't like us some people don't like hip-hop

[00:15:05] They don't like the fact that we like hip-hop

[00:15:07] They don't like the way we talk the way we walk the way we dress

[00:15:10] But when they can monetize it when they want to when they can monetize it

[00:15:15] They use it

[00:15:17] So it ain't like burn a boy had on a kente cloth or a dashiki or head wrap or something like that

[00:15:25] He looked like he was from Atlanta. So he fooled us. He looked like Gunna

[00:15:30] Look like Gunna

[00:15:33] That's what I'm talking about

[00:15:36] When they want to jack us and imitate us and push us out, that's what they do

[00:15:41] all music is our music but

[00:15:50] When you trying to come for this

[00:15:54] This right here that saved my life, right

[00:15:57] You know why I saved my life because when I could have been doing other things

[00:16:02] I was in the studio

[00:16:04] I was in the studio

[00:16:07] I was trying to create that kept me out of trouble

[00:16:12] Nobody said Africa didn't love hip-hop. See you making this about Africans and hip-hop and there's no such place listen

[00:16:20] Some Africans from the continent don't like each other

[00:16:23] So we need to stop that too because they don't even call us African

[00:16:26] They don't say i'm African

[00:16:28] But who called it afro beats?

[00:16:31] I bet you it wasn't none of them

[00:16:34] And I bet you it wasn't none of us

[00:16:36] I bet you it wasn't none of them and none of us

[00:16:39] Calling it that was a divisive thing in the first place and them singing

[00:16:46] And putting out memos that they don't want to sign no more hip-hop acts

[00:16:49] All they want is latin music and afrobeat artists was a divisive thing

[00:16:53] How are we supposed to feel when we in this country being black american men and women in this country

[00:17:00] Built the whole music scene for what it is and we were their entertainment

[00:17:04] That's just the truth

[00:17:07] So if you do your thing do your thing we would embrace you just like

[00:17:10] When a lot of west indian artists came here and they was wearing used and damaged and shit

[00:17:20] And they were like, you know, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that

[00:17:24] A lot of west indian artists came here and they was wearing used and damaged and shit and had them holy shirts

[00:17:30] And they was you know, they did what they did. We were able to differentiate us from them and we liked it

[00:17:36] He's like yo, that's dope when shabba ranks had like

[00:17:40] I don't know if it was a gumby or bishop from juice. I didn't know what it was, but they were able to

[00:17:47] differentiate differentiate from us and they

[00:17:50] Straight up and down did they thing and I understand that

[00:17:54] I understood it but these

[00:17:57] We can't tell if they're them or us and when they talk

[00:18:00] It's almost like how they hijack the movies if you look at all the movies and all the black actors

[00:18:06] Watch when they talk

[00:18:09] They're not black men from here

[00:18:12] I'm like, I think that um, you know, I you know, I think that you think what is think you think

[00:18:23] Me think that um

[00:18:30] from detroit

[00:18:34] The whole time stringer bell wasn't from baltimore

[00:18:41] So out of this whole country

[00:18:44] They couldn't find nobody from baltimore

[00:18:46] to be stringer bell

[00:18:51] Just really think about that out of this whole country. They couldn't find nobody from baltimore to be stringer bell

[00:19:01] They pushed us out of everything out of hollywood. Now. They're pushing us out of music and y'all think it's funny. All right

[00:19:08] Same thing that make you laugh

[00:19:15] The whole time he's like, oh wow, they got a black person in in in in star wars. Yes when he spoke I was like

[00:19:26] Where are they from?

[00:19:30] See smitty. I appreciate you

[00:19:32] Thank you truth always gonna get told

[00:19:36] the whole time jumpy's like john bar. Yeah, good

[00:19:40] he started talking he was like

[00:19:43] Yo, hold up man

[00:19:46] Hold up man, nah

[00:19:49] Nah

[00:19:50] we've been had

[00:19:55] That's why they started rallying for him to be the next james bond. Why because the james bond has always been

[00:20:03] Shaken not stirred. He's always been

[00:20:06] From britain whatever the hell they call. I don't know

[00:20:14] All the top actors black men actors is not from here

[00:20:18] They still pushing denzel and morgan freeman on us

[00:20:23] Give me one young black man from america. That's an actor and i'll wait

[00:20:29] Give me one

[00:20:30] 50 cent

[00:20:39] We've been had they pushing us out

[00:20:42] Of shit that we created. This is what i'm saying

[00:20:49] So you mean to tell me

[00:20:52] Do you mean to tell me? All right, let me get this straight

[00:20:55] Every last one of them artists blew up and blow up every last one of them

[00:21:03] Blew up and blow up right every last one of them

[00:21:08] And how many niggas you know got mixtapes?

[00:21:11] Oh, yeah

[00:21:14] Just really think about it

[00:21:17] All the chicks got only fan pages and dudes got soundcloud pages and you ain't blowing up

[00:21:22] But every last one of them they just gotta say some inaudible shit and they blow up

[00:21:26] They they song is number one is tiktok people doing dances and stuff and

[00:21:30] Doing a thriller and all that what is this going? Come on, man. It ain't nah, then they trying to get rid of hip-hop

[00:21:38] Even my west indian y'all be listen y'all be embracing it

[00:21:46] They ain't fucking with y'all they took your shit too

[00:21:49] They took y'all shit too

[00:21:51] They took your reggae sound too just like the latin dudes took that shit and made that same ass beat over and over

[00:21:59] And people was like dominica sita

[00:22:02] Dominica sita

[00:22:04] Dominica sita, uh, I

[00:22:07] I was like yo

[00:22:09] What's a reggae beat

[00:22:19] Come on man, I better wake up

[00:22:23] Y'all gotta wake up y'all better start yo

[00:22:31] We on the way out

[00:22:33] You think it's funny

[00:22:35] I think it's funny right? Y'all do know right?

[00:22:38] Y'all do know i'm like one of the only

[00:22:42] Black men podcasters, right? You do know that right?

[00:22:46] You do know that right look at who everybody else is you do know that right

[00:22:52] You better do your homework. You better do your research

[00:22:55] I was born here

[00:23:00] Parents born here parents parents born here

[00:23:04] You better do your research. Everybody else ain't from here

[00:23:07] Everybody else ain't from here

[00:23:09] But y'all want to push everybody else and then when y'all have when when it ain't no longer hours

[00:23:13] Y'all gonna be like what happened because you didn't support your own. I'm one of you

[00:23:18] I'm of you

[00:23:21] Brooklyn streets

[00:23:22] Waverly avenue, forth street born and raised a whole family 53 years living on one block

[00:23:28] 53 years

[00:23:29] Before I was born

[00:23:34] Mother and father lived in the same building

[00:23:37] as kids

[00:23:43] I'm, the only one that's trying to push this hip-hop thing still

[00:23:49] Put up footage of little kim last night. You show me footage of little kim who got little kim footage

[00:24:02] See my bro china brim. He said he from guyana shout out to all my guyanese people

[00:24:09] I'm from here

[00:24:10] Mine's from here

[00:24:14] Shout out to everybody i'm not you know i'm saying and i'm not trying to cause no division but slowly but surely look what's happening

[00:24:22] Look what's happening

[00:24:28] Freeman didn't I just serve you a few minutes ago?

[00:24:31] I don't know what you're saying. But listen, you you already got served just sit in the corner

[00:24:36] All right sit in the corner and eat your pudding

[00:24:40] You like white pudding too

[00:24:43] With a little extra gravy in it man, we ain't evolving into nothing we are devolving

[00:24:52] Oh now hip-hop, how do hip-hop come from jamaica

[00:24:57] What's your name bet see you ain't what's her name base baseru baseru

[00:25:07] Let me all right. Let me ask some how does hip-hop come from jamaica?

[00:25:10] There's just what I want to know hip-hop come from jamaica

[00:25:14] So what was it called when it was in jamaica? Was it called hip-hop?

[00:25:21] And who was the first hip-hop artist in jamaica because I could tell you about pig meat markham

[00:25:25] different people that was out here in america doing

[00:25:29] What was music that could be considered to be hip-hop give me one jamaican artist that was doing that in jamaica, i'll wait

[00:25:40] hip-hop came from jamaica

[00:25:47] What jamaica queens?

[00:25:49] jamaica have

[00:25:52] What was it called when it was in jamaica? Was it called hip-hop?

[00:25:58] What was it called?

[00:26:08] Music is not evolving music is devolving because it's devolving a word. Hey siri

[00:26:17] Is devolving a word

[00:26:20] Here's what I found tell me what it mean

[00:26:26] Swear, I am no, no, no. No, no what does devolving mean siri?

[00:26:35] Man, it's just like a woman don't listen

[00:26:41] Just like a damn chick don't listen quincy said it came from africa who you talking about quincy jones

[00:26:55] Quincy jones also said he loves women only that right there

[00:27:01] That's a good one

[00:27:11] That's a good one

[00:27:13] I'm gonna put that over there

[00:27:16] Put that over there

[00:27:18] cool herc

[00:27:21] You really believe cool herc brought the sound classes from jamaica and brought it to the parks of new york. You really think that?

[00:27:33] You really think that?

[00:27:35] cool herc

[00:27:37] Cool, i'm gonna chill i'm gonna chill. I ain't gonna do that. I ain't gonna do that. I'm gonna chill. He an elder

[00:27:46] brought it from the park jam

[00:27:48] and who

[00:27:50] Whose sound set was he using?

[00:27:56] Cool herc then first of all, can I can I do this again for y'all?

[00:28:01] hip-hop

[00:28:04] Says to contain about five to seven elements

[00:28:07] right

[00:28:09] If he did the dj part

[00:28:11] Who was the rapper because rap is a part of hip-hop, right? So say he did do the dj part

[00:28:17] That's hip-hop or that's djing

[00:28:26] Is that

[00:28:29] Hip-hop or is that djing? So how could you say he brought hip-hop here?

[00:28:34] If it's only djing, what about the other elements the mcing the breakdancing the b-boying?

[00:28:42] The um the dress code the graffiti what about all that and the knowledge what about all that

[00:28:51] What about all that so if he only did djing what about everything else who did that?

[00:28:57] So, how could we say he started anything if all he did was play records

[00:29:03] That's like saying hal jackson started hip-hop

[00:29:09] frankie crocker

[00:29:16] Come on, man

[00:29:19] Y'all better wake up back to what I was talking about. All right, well I was so rudely interrupted

[00:29:29] I'll be by myself. I don't care dolo anyway

[00:29:35] I don't need a friend back when I used to drink. I ain't even need a friend to drink. I'll drink by myself

[00:29:41] Right was by myself

[00:29:46] So if i'm by myself

[00:29:51] and I don't like

[00:29:54] And I don't like a certain type of music

[00:29:59] Fba's are

[00:30:04] Tethers, that's your name who created turntables poetry and drums who created it owns hip-hop clothes

[00:30:12] I'm not trolling tonight. First of all, i'm gonna be real. I'm not a troll

[00:30:17] I don't say stuff for shock value anything

[00:30:19] I really feel like that like if you speak to me one-on-one

[00:30:22] And you have if you converse with me often, I'm i'm not a troll

[00:30:27] I'm not it's I just have thoughts and I believe that when you have a platform you here to

[00:30:36] Create conversation conversation is good

[00:30:38] Especially when we're talking about our culture right?

[00:30:40] Because see this what y'all got to understand about our culture right whatever the culture is

[00:30:45] What's gonna happen is

[00:30:48] It's going to be a time where we're not spoken about

[00:30:52] It's going to be a time where we erase they already be trying to erase us from stuff

[00:30:57] So if we don't make it plain and put it out for the world, they're going to erase us period

[00:31:07] That's what it's really all about

[00:31:09] So what I say is not popular

[00:31:12] I'm, not into pop culture. I'm not into you know, I like to say what I want

[00:31:17] That's what I got a platform for to say what I want and it's not about people agreeing

[00:31:21] Sometimes I say stuff nobody agrees with me

[00:31:24] I don't care

[00:31:26] It's almost like people tweet and stuff and you know, i'm gonna say what I want

[00:31:32] Just like the walls and kemet they scrub the walls

[00:31:36] They scrub the walls

[00:31:40] So we have to while we got a chance to talk just think about this, right

[00:31:45] What if you lose your five senses? What if you wasn't able to speak imagine what you would want to say?

[00:31:52] Imagine the words that you would just wish to convey

[00:31:55] 10 words

[00:31:57] What would you say? So here it is. We have voices we have platforms. We don't say nothing

[00:32:02] We just caught up in what the script has given us we we caught up in what they're showing us

[00:32:08] And then we follow that

[00:32:10] So they say okay. This is the new genre

[00:32:13] We we off hip-hop and everybody be like yeah

[00:32:16] Because i'm tired of it anyway

[00:32:17] Because then automatically when you go to hip-hop you automatically say you're tired of hip-hop and you go right to drill

[00:32:22] Drill isn't hip-hop. It's a sub-genre of hip-hop

[00:32:26] Just like rap is not hip-hop rap is a part of hip-hop because rap just means the words

[00:32:34] So it's different parts of hip-hop that makes up hip-hop

[00:32:38] But it's so much going on and the problem is we we allow them to tell us what's hip-hop and what's not hip-hop

[00:32:45] while the whole world

[00:32:47] the whole world

[00:32:51] The whole world

[00:32:55] Is doing hip-hop

[00:32:56] We're the only ones that go on stage. We don't need a dj. We don't need dancers. We don't need a beatbox

[00:33:01] We don't need some stuff and things is supposed to evolve into different things

[00:33:05] But still when you start taking away from things, it's not hip-hop no more

[00:33:13] That's just the truth

[00:33:15] So that's how we stay stuck because we don't want to evolve with the sound and what's going on

[00:33:20] And I am but for me

[00:33:23] i'm not going to sit there and let a whole genre of music wipe us out no

[00:33:30] Because when that happens then where is

[00:33:33] afro beats

[00:33:35] Okay

[00:33:37] Top shelf tv. I don't know if you got the memo

[00:33:41] I don't know if you got the memo. I did a whole show on this

[00:33:46] They said ebro said

[00:33:51] That the labels call him and told him

[00:33:55] They're not trying to sign any more hip-hop acts. They just want afro beats and latin music

[00:34:02] So that means they just want

[00:34:04] And living my feet I know god they just want that they don't want no

[00:34:11] Represent represent they don't want none of that

[00:34:14] So when they think of hip-hop now hip-hop has just been put in one box where it's Atlanta

[00:34:20] And it's drill when it's all

[00:34:23] types of music going on in the world

[00:34:28] and especially hip-hop music

[00:34:31] And especially hip-hop music

[00:34:33] So when they say hip-hop

[00:34:35] They be like yo, this is this is hip-hop and then they just say this is what it represents

[00:34:39] That's not what it represents. We do this in many different ways. You had conscious hip-hop

[00:34:46] You had different things

[00:34:48] But what happened is it was the over saturation of the culture due to money

[00:34:54] And if it didn't make money people automatically shunned it what did they do they crossed that over into like youtube, right?

[00:35:01] So now you have people on youtube looking at people views and saying your views and you don't get no views and views

[00:35:08] Okay, say I got 10 views

[00:35:12] Every video from here on out

[00:35:15] Does that take away my accomplishments what i've done in the culture?

[00:35:18] Does that take away the fact that most of y'all are on youtube doing youtube because of me?

[00:35:23] That don't take away nothing so I cannot be rated by a view my jersey is in the rafters already

[00:35:32] Hold on. Let me show y'all something man. Let me show y'all something i'm gonna be wanting to do this, but every now and again

[00:35:45] My big homie, I don't I've never called no one my big home

[00:35:51] But when it come to doggy diamonds

[00:35:54] When it come to interview shit

[00:35:57] I'm not

[00:35:59] That's my big

[00:36:05] But guess what he taught me

[00:36:08] That's what I said and not broadcast interview. Oh really

[00:36:14] See

[00:36:15] your favorites some of them

[00:36:18] admitted publicly

[00:36:20] Some of them hit me on the dm. Some of them play games

[00:36:24] What's your favorites?

[00:36:27] It is what it is. You can't even front

[00:36:33] So when it comes to money and it comes to so-called success and views and all that stuff

[00:36:38] That's where you start getting judged by whether you went platinum or whether you win gold. It's not about that

[00:36:44] It's how many lives how many lives?

[00:36:47] Have you changed? Of course, I remember the board but it's spelled t-e-h though

[00:36:53] Think about it. How many lives have you changed? How many jobs have you created?

[00:37:00] From what you did

[00:37:03] So that's really what it's all about

[00:37:08] Trash rap, but what is trash rap trash rap is subjective. What is trash rap?

[00:37:13] What you think is trash people love and it ain't about what's good or bad anymore

[00:37:16] It's about what's marketed and promoted and what bag is put behind stuff. They can make anything go

[00:37:23] They can make anything go always know that they can make anything go

[00:37:31] Your favorite word algorithm that y'all don't know nothing about

[00:37:34] They can make anything go

[00:37:39] Look right now on all your social media on your timeline. How do you see stuff from people? You're not following?

[00:37:47] You don't even see the people you following no more. You see a bunch of stuff. You'd be like, yo, I ain't even following this

[00:37:56] What is this or why is this on my timeline and that's on instagram?

[00:37:59] That's on facebook and that's on um x aka twitter

[00:38:03] X aka twitter

[00:38:09] so at the end of it all

[00:38:12] Listen they can make anything go so it don't even matter. It's about what they put the money behind

[00:38:24] And a lot of these artists will say to you listen to push a record to make a record it costs about

[00:38:30] 275 000 for one song

[00:38:35] Now we'll look and we say drake is the stream. Drake is one of the biggest streamed artists

[00:38:39] Why do you think that is he has like 10 logos on his thing everybody has to eat off this

[00:38:44] So you don't think 10 different companies is not gonna push it?

[00:38:50] When you have 10 different companies pushing something, of course is gonna go

[00:38:55] You got canada

[00:38:57] You got houston. You got memphis. You got universal. You got little wayne

[00:39:01] You got nicky you got that whole conglomerate. You got cash money young money ovo

[00:39:06] uh, um

[00:39:08] universal

[00:39:09] rap a lot

[00:39:11] um

[00:39:12] Memphis as a as a because you know, he's

[00:39:15] Part memphis too because his daddy and all that

[00:39:19] Of course is going to be a bunch of people. Of course is gonna go then the secret deals with spotify

[00:39:24] and owning

[00:39:26] Summer apples and stuff like that

[00:39:29] And then the endorsement deals and all that stuff

[00:39:31] Everybody is in on it because he became a cash cow not because it's good or bad

[00:39:36] Because it's marketed and promoted and anything that you hear a hundred times you tend to like until you realize

[00:39:44] Hold on, man

[00:39:45] i'm tired of this

[00:39:48] Until you say

[00:39:55] So that happens and then you'll be like all right enough I was tired of this anyway

[00:40:00] but

[00:40:01] People be afraid to say what they don't like why because they get called haters as for me

[00:40:05] I don't care what you call me

[00:40:09] But one thing you're gonna call me always is an independent thinker i'm a person who thinks for himself

[00:40:15] If I don't like something, I don't like something. That's it

[00:40:21] Yeah, eat these crab legs. I don't like crab legs. Why are you hanging on crab legs?

[00:40:26] It's called preference

[00:40:29] I prefer not to eat crab legs or chicken legs or anybody. Well

[00:40:35] Yeah

[00:40:36] Animals and shellfish legs. Let's just say that

[00:40:43] So now we're afraid to express our displeasure with something because we know the backlash we're gonna get

[00:40:51] We already know what's about to happen we already know that everybody's about to shun you for that

[00:40:58] Because you have a now is his take

[00:41:02] Listen, I got more stake in this culture than most of the people who run their mouth

[00:41:06] I've never ever been employed by anybody. I never was paid to push an agenda

[00:41:12] I am an independent thinker independent marketer independent promoter and i've always been independent where I did my own thing

[00:41:19] I've never taken

[00:41:20] Tooken or taken or took anybody's money to do something that I didn't want to do

[00:41:26] Only time I take people money to do something is promote people and I charge a little measly

[00:41:31] $100 for people who are who need to be heard a little bit more but other than that, no, you can't say don't you know?

[00:41:38] that

[00:41:41] The politicians be buying artists and rappers. Did you didn't know that?

[00:41:45] Oh, i'm not allowed to say all that stuff because you know, they don't like me talking a certain way a lot of people

[00:41:50] want to take

[00:41:52] You just don't know that

[00:41:55] They're getting paid

[00:42:01] I ain't no crab legs. I ain't no scrimps

[00:42:05] I eat strawberries though

[00:42:10] But i'm just saying you don't like something it's okay

[00:42:15] You're not hating

[00:42:17] You could be different you can be it's okay not to like something

[00:42:27] It's okay, it's okay. I don't like cilantro

[00:42:38] I don't like

[00:42:40] guacamole

[00:42:42] I don't like avocados

[00:42:46] And when you say you don't like something why are people so surprised why do people be like you crazy you bugging listen

[00:42:54] I'm an individual

[00:42:58] One twice man. I appreciate you support my independent voice. I'm an individual we have a right not to like something

[00:43:05] Maybe something that you eat makes me throw up

[00:43:09] But I gotta explain to you why I don't like something for you for your approval

[00:43:15] Who the f*** are you?

[00:43:19] Who are you I don't need nobody's approval my parents is gone my parents is gone

[00:43:30] So now we're not allowed to have any

[00:43:34] Individuality we're not allowed to have any preferences

[00:43:37] Unless you prefer the other stuff

[00:43:40] That they push on us too. And that's all i'ma say about that

[00:43:47] We we're not allowed to have preference because we're haters, but look what they prefer though

[00:43:59] People like what they like

[00:44:01] I'm, just not one of them who

[00:44:06] I don't like soda. I don't drink soda

[00:44:11] So if you think you're gonna be like

[00:44:14] This soda is good and you think i'ma be sitting there

[00:44:17] Foaming at the mouth upper lip quivering because you drinking soda. I don't care

[00:44:23] I don't care what people like or don't like I don't I just don't like it. All right

[00:44:27] If I come to your crib and you frying chicken and all you got is legs and thighs

[00:44:33] Don't invite me to dinner. I'm not eating no chicken legs

[00:44:38] Seriously

[00:44:40] I'm not eating no chicken legs. I'm not eating no shrimp. I'm not eating no crab boils. I'm not eating none of that

[00:44:46] I'm not eating none of that

[00:44:52] That's it

[00:44:54] And that's really what life is about being an independent thinker

[00:45:00] Not following the script

[00:45:04] Why you think everything you see is the same you give me three four people who are different

[00:45:12] Everything you see is the same every dude think they gotta carry theirself a certain way and every female thinks

[00:45:17] She got to carry herself a certain way. Why because everybody else is doing it. Guess what? I ain't everybody else. I'm an individual

[00:45:25] I don't like that

[00:45:27] Well, that's what you do fine

[00:45:30] I don't do that

[00:45:33] Everybody's singing in the camera everybody's on vacation

[00:45:37] If she's fat, she got on a two or one piece bathing suit if she she's small

[00:45:41] She got it's all it's all a script that they follow that they think

[00:45:47] This is what it's about and it was given to them

[00:45:51] It was given to them and people follow it not me

[00:45:55] Okay

[00:45:56] I'm allowed to be a black man

[00:46:00] Who doesn't have 15 baby mothers who don't smoke don't drink not in the game. Don't have a lengthy jail record

[00:46:07] I'm allowed

[00:46:08] That's allowed

[00:46:12] That's me

[00:46:13] Okay

[00:46:15] I don't have to exchange traumatic stories with you to fit in with you. I don't want to fit in with nobody

[00:46:23] I can show you my call log

[00:46:27] And people could tell you

[00:46:29] Yo, he never answers his phone because I already know what you're gonna say

[00:46:33] You're gonna look you're gonna pick up the phone and say what you've been up to

[00:46:39] When i'm all over the damn internet so i'm supposed to give you a play-by-play blow by

[00:46:45] No play by play no ditty of what i've been doing why you've been doing nothing that don't work like that

[00:46:53] Well people call you and they didn't want to go to mac and get on the phone. Yeah, man

[00:46:59] Yeah, man

[00:47:00] The minute you started with that energy

[00:47:03] The minute the minute I pick up the phone and you like

[00:47:08] Yo, man, I don't want to talk to you any longer I don't want to hear it

[00:47:22] I don't want to hear it

[00:47:28] So I was eating somewhere right

[00:47:31] And I seen this young lady come in she had a pretty face

[00:47:35] She looked like she could be black. Maybe dominican something like that. I don't know

[00:47:40] But as she proceeded to walk past me, of course I looked

[00:47:43] And she had a bbl

[00:47:45] But the difference between her bbl and regular other bbls that i've seen this one was botched

[00:47:51] And when I say botched, I mean botched

[00:47:54] Like she had two kick balls under her dress it didn't match her legs and she had a belly

[00:48:03] But it wasn't a belly that was like a bare belly or like like that

[00:48:08] She just had a little puppies type belly

[00:48:12] And I was just confused I was like, okay

[00:48:15] I thought the bbl

[00:48:17] they take

[00:48:19] the fat from your belly and put it

[00:48:22] in your

[00:48:24] Where did they take that fat from because it didn't come from your stomach

[00:48:28] That's why you got botched

[00:48:33] And the whole time she's just walking around

[00:48:37] Thinking she cute

[00:48:39] I'm just saying to myself

[00:48:42] Who convinced her to do that?

[00:48:45] You know who convinced her the script did

[00:48:49] This script convinced her to do that this script that she thought this is what we like

[00:48:55] And fellas start telling these ladies. We don't like that

[00:49:00] and you know for the most part

[00:49:04] I see a lot of dudes on social media because when you go to your explorer pages for some reason all this stuff comes up

[00:49:11] And I randomly click on stuff a lot of times in my explorer page because I like to see what people are looking at

[00:49:16] And I see a lot of people that I know following they be all in the comments with hard eyes and all this stuff

[00:49:21] and I see

[00:49:23] when I look at the screen

[00:49:26] And they got this bbl and it's big. All I think about is this putrid smell that must be in that room

[00:49:33] And y'all dudes be all lusting some of the things y'all say it's just far-fetched to me

[00:49:38] I cannot imagine looking at somebody that I don't know and telling them I would lower my face to them

[00:49:46] You don't know what they smell like you can't detect that through the screen

[00:49:50] You can't detect aura you can't detect smells

[00:49:54] Y'all that thirsty?

[00:49:56] No, serious some of my rapper friends some of my producer friends you dm me you ask me for favors

[00:50:02] Yo, homie, could you this or could we do you ask me all that stuff and I always oblige for this right here

[00:50:08] See, that's what's wrong with hip-hop. It's not enough camaraderie

[00:50:11] Right. Y'all asked me to look out for you

[00:50:14] You asked me to post your music you asked for an interview asked for all of that, right?

[00:50:18] And and I and I help you for the love of this

[00:50:20] Why don't you ask bbl drizzy to help you once you ask bbl shantay bbl ashanti bbl

[00:50:27] Why don't you ask them because those are the people that you give your attention, right?

[00:50:32] I've done interviews with dudes that ain't even retweeted or posted

[00:50:36] Because I guess they did me a favor. That's why some artists if you look they're not even on my channel anymore

[00:50:44] Nobody's bigger than the program

[00:50:47] And if we doing it for this

[00:50:51] It's all about preserving this but when you think you high and mighty and you bigger than this

[00:50:55] And I should be happy that you did an interview with me

[00:50:58] I show you better than I tell you. I don't want your views. I don't want nothing

[00:51:04] I hate your mustache your beard when you say fuck me

[00:51:12] I said fuck you and that's what be going on, but they all on these pages being lusty

[00:51:27] And I gotta ask this question

[00:51:29] Because i'm about to go but I gotta ask this question. This is the important question

[00:51:38] Now for the regular folk

[00:51:40] I get it

[00:51:43] I get it

[00:51:46] Why do y'all follow joe button girl?

[00:51:54] I'm confused. See once I find out. Oh

[00:52:01] That's joe button girl

[00:52:04] Okay, cool

[00:52:05] She might be nice looking or whatever, but that's not a good enough reason for me to hit that follow button on nobody, right?

[00:52:11] But then you know, that's his girl

[00:52:15] and it ain't like she's on there playing the congas or something like that or

[00:52:20] She's setting up the microphone and the podcast when he's doing this pod

[00:52:24] Or the lightning and dudes be just following dudes girls and all in the comments and all in the like i'll be like y'all hold on

[00:52:32] Why are these rappers girls important?

[00:52:36] Why what do they do or they be like jada waiter and ari i'm like who are these people y'all talking about

[00:52:43] Why are they important? But the minute you get disgruntled

[00:52:50] You start talking about hip-hop and niggas is black balling

[00:52:53] No, you don't fuck with people who support you you fuck with people who don't support you because you're glutton for punishment

[00:52:59] If everybody fuck with who fuck with them, then everybody would be safe

[00:53:03] But out of nowhere you make people who ain't really shit respectfully famous

[00:53:08] And then they start getting big-headed and they start thinking they somebody but they have no tangible skill or no talent

[00:53:15] That's how you create kardashians

[00:53:19] Because she looked good. I could go right now

[00:53:22] And find any of their pages well

[00:53:25] I don't know their name on there

[00:53:28] But I would have to look at finding pages and show and prove

[00:53:32] Like yo, why am I why am I following this girl? Because she walk with

[00:53:37] Khalees

[00:53:39] Khalees respectfully khalees

[00:53:43] Khalees

[00:53:46] You're not you can fool them. You're not fooling me. You're talking about

[00:53:50] Look at my pomegranates

[00:53:52] This is my ponder pomegranates. I picked to go in my smoothie the whole time

[00:53:58] Got on a bathing suit top

[00:54:00] A tube top with a thong on you think motherfuckers is looking at your pomegranates?

[00:54:07] Look at my freshly cut blueberries and

[00:54:10] My ostrich loves them the whole time you got your titties out

[00:54:14] You think we're looking at the goddamn ostrich and the blueberries, you know what you doing?

[00:54:20] People ask me what's my skincare routine?

[00:54:24] I put this in my hair and

[00:54:29] stop

[00:54:32] stop

[00:54:35] Straight up and down listen stop we see what you're doing. We see what you're doing

[00:54:48] Hey, this is what these are my coco nymphs that I use for my huh the whole time sitting in the water

[00:54:59] Water got her skin glistening and all type of shit and everybody's sitting there lusting

[00:55:04] But you want us to talk about?

[00:55:06] Look at my coco nymphs that I use for my smoothies and I mix that with chia seeds and I make a good tapioca pudding

[00:55:15] Stop stop

[00:55:20] You ain't fooling me

[00:55:22] I don't follow you

[00:55:25] Yeah, right now i'm on the coast of kenya and i'm picking certain flowers

[00:55:33] And she bend over and pick a flower and you like that. You ain't looking near flower. I ain't looking no flowers. You're like damn

[00:55:40] stop

[00:55:42] You ain't fooling nobody you can only fool the fool

[00:55:50] Let's see something. Hold on

[00:55:55] Let's see something

[00:55:58] I like to show and prove everything. I don't really be liking to talk

[00:56:03] Please

[00:56:07] Rest my case rest my case

[00:56:16] I rest my case

[00:56:18] Look you get to see the top. Let's just click one. Let's let's let's click one. Come on

[00:56:24] Come on, fam

[00:56:27] fam

[00:56:28] I seen this in my explorer page one day

[00:56:31] fam

[00:56:33] Come on it's still too bright. Hold on. Hold on we going

[00:56:40] fam stop look at

[00:56:46] You know

[00:56:47] I like to use it for my skin and I you know

[00:56:50] I use certain oils and berries and juice it for my skin and the whole time like this

[00:56:55] I like to use certain oils and berries for my skin and many times you ask me what's my skincare routine?

[00:57:04] Stop I ain't fooling nobody

[00:57:14] And many times at night I soak my feet and I put olive oil bags and and in our epsom salt and black seed oil

[00:57:23] to make sure that I'm not getting

[00:57:25] blackheads and

[00:57:35] blackheads and blackheads

[00:57:39] I

[00:57:44] I

[00:57:46] I

[00:57:48] I

[00:57:50] I

[00:57:52] I

[00:57:54] I

[00:57:57] I

[00:57:59] She, you know, she was going to say that. Come on, man.

[00:58:07] Come on, miss. Stop. I'm trying to come on, man.

[00:58:15] Come on my skin.

[00:58:20] Come on, man. Stop. I, you look good. You, you,

[00:58:25] well, I don't like to say a woman looks good for her age because you know,

[00:58:28] you look good. You look good.

[00:58:29] No matter how old you are, as long as you of age, you look good.

[00:58:34] But stop trying to sell it like, yeah, you know, I like to make my,

[00:58:39] I like to make my cornbread and I just mill the corn and no,

[00:58:45] when you're trying to show us them sweater puppies,

[00:58:49] knowing you trying to sell those fun bags to us, stop.

[00:59:04] Hold on. Stop.

[00:59:10] Stop trying to trick us. Like we sitting here looking to,

[00:59:20] looking at her like she's this one I'm saying, man, I'm just,

[00:59:25] I'm tired of it, man. Just me. I just meet, I'm telling you, it'd be the days.

[00:59:29] I walk a lot. Right?

[00:59:30] So this whole week I've been walking at least four to five miles a day. Right?

[00:59:33] Just walking. When you walk, you think you contemplate,

[00:59:38] you assess, you do a lot of stuff. And when you walk and you think,

[00:59:41] and you'd be like, they really think niggas follow her for berries.

[00:59:48] She know what she doing.

[00:59:51] This is my farm and I just milk four cows. You don't be seeing,

[00:59:57] you don't be seeing that shit sometimes you won't be saying that this is clay

[01:00:04] that I made.

[01:00:05] I just came from the Aztecs and I got clay and I just put the clay on my skin.

[01:00:11] And right now I'm making muffins. I'm making them out of,

[01:00:19] this is real poppy seed, but it's not going to get you intoxicated.

[01:00:22] But it's the poppy seed, you know, that goes on the bagels.

[01:00:25] So I just came from Bogota and I got poppy seed.

[01:00:28] I'm going to make bagels, fresh bagels. Stop, stop.

[01:00:38] You're not fucking tricking us. We know what you doing.

[01:00:45] And then you ladies be thinking that shit gonna work for you.

[01:00:50] He's talking about my skin, your skincare routine.

[01:00:55] Take that makeup off and let me see.

[01:00:58] Take that filter off and let me see. Listen,

[01:01:07] I'm gonna be real with you. I don't follow none of that. Honestly,

[01:01:13] if I don't know the female personally, I'm just not following you.

[01:01:16] Because one thing about me,

[01:01:17] I'm not gassing nobody to make them think that they somebody special.

[01:01:21] Not because I'm following them because they got to follow him.

[01:01:24] Because when people would have a follow and they start thinking that they got to

[01:01:27] say so and stuff because people are following them.

[01:01:29] And then when you listen to what they have to say, you're like, damn,

[01:01:32] why am I following you again? You're smart as a box of rocks.

[01:01:41] You ever hear somebody talk and you'd be like, Oh hell no.

[01:01:46] What does your voice sound like? They did that to us with Michelle.

[01:01:53] Lay. She was singing. We like Michelle laid.

[01:02:02] And she was like,

[01:02:12] Hey yo, who was that? She was singing something in my heart. We was like, Oh shit.

[01:02:21] Look good. And all that. And she was like,

[01:02:34] first I was like, she had to do the helium thing.

[01:02:39] She had to, it wasn't helium.

[01:02:43] I was like, there's no way in hell I would listen to that all day.

[01:02:46] I'd be like, yo, you want to say something to me? Sing it. All right.

[01:02:51] Sing. I want to hear that shit.

[01:02:57] Imagine waking up, you sleep and she'd be like,

[01:03:00] you want something to eat? Nah.

[01:03:10] See, look at the starch contrast between.

[01:03:21] I just want you to shut the fuck up.

[01:03:30] Oh man. I run a lot of things to talk about. I'm just freestyling now.

[01:03:33] So we offer Afro beats. No more of that.

[01:03:37] Tyler, that shit. I want Afro beats.

[01:03:43] No more fucking.

[01:03:46] What? What was she saying? Make me swim. Make me. What was she saying?

[01:03:54] I don't get it. Then you had,

[01:04:07] I used to like sitting on top of the world. I love that record.

[01:04:14] And then you just hear this dude.

[01:04:22] And Tim's is one record. She was trying to sing.

[01:04:26] Fam. Nope. I'm telling you.

[01:04:31] I'd rather listen to a kitten cry because he got lost from the litter all night.

[01:04:37] Then to hear that song, then y'all be talking about the beat.

[01:04:46] Nah, nope. Can't rock with it.

[01:04:53] Now we think it, you're always trying to find them records that define you to

[01:04:57] them. Afro beat song.

[01:04:59] There is making one of them saw that you think is your soundtrack.

[01:05:04] Y'all don't even put up pictures. No more.

[01:05:06] Your picture has some type of soundtrack. You trying to say something.

[01:05:09] And the thing that you don't get is the person that you're talking to or the

[01:05:13] persons you're talking to don't care.

[01:05:19] They don't care.

[01:05:22] They don't care.

[01:05:24] The subliminal shots you try to throw or the messages you try to convey through

[01:05:29] social media, the people who you trying to get at don't care.

[01:05:34] So a lot of times when I see stuff,

[01:05:37] I've been looking at this person trying to sneak this via a Snapchat or via

[01:05:44] Instagram story. I know your real life. You forgot,

[01:05:49] but I should is for everybody else. Three, five cartel for what?

[01:05:53] What exactly are we freeing him for? I want to hear this. What's your name?

[01:05:58] Kelloggs Kelloggs. Great name.

[01:06:03] Why are we freeing vibes?

[01:06:04] Cartel because a lot of times you'll say free people and I want to know why they

[01:06:07] should be free besides, you know, being in inhumane places.

[01:06:11] But when you do crime this way, you end up at, why should we free him?

[01:06:14] You got the floor. Go ahead. It's your show now.

[01:06:17] Kel logs. Why should he be free?