Irv Gotti Thinks Jay Z Didn’t Need Dame Dash To Be Successful

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[00:00:48] situation just really got a lot of stuff in the upper arm. I was looking at the earth, got a thing on. Let me just start by saying to you, I like her. I've got his interviews are very,

[00:01:01] very funny to me. His interviews are candid and I like his interviews. I don't know. Y'all like his interview on like I see somebody say herb is a clown. I like her, man. I think her interviews

[00:01:14] is hilarious. I think they're very candid. And I like I like his interviews. You know what I'm saying? If I interview her, I think it'll be very, very. It'll be exciting, informative, but I will ask them a different line of question. And so it seems like, unfortunately,

[00:01:36] urban Dame Dash is on the collision course to have words. They've had words back and forth. Via the Internet. But I said something that was interesting to me. He said that Jay-Z didn't need Dame Dash. And I don't know how you feel about that. I feel like.

[00:02:01] I feel like this is what I think. He did need Dame Dash, I mean, Dame Dash was a partner. So for you to say somebody doesn't need a partner, we all need a partner. At one point,

[00:02:13] do we need a partner long term? Maybe not. But Dame Dash was a partner and. That partnership is what created Rockefeller, what brought a lot of the success and a lot

[00:02:23] of the people, right? So. When you say he didn't need him and what capacity didn't he need him? I mean, he didn't need him. Yes, for the studio. He didn't need him to create the music.

[00:02:39] But he needed him, you know, he needed him because if you're the artist who's going to handle the paperwork, who's going to handle the day to day? I don't take Jay-Z as a partner.

[00:02:47] I don't take Jay-Z as a person that's going to the office every day. Not me, you know what I'm saying? But Dame seems like a person that will go to the office every day and take care of business

[00:02:56] in the office every day. That's the type of the type of person that Dame struck me as. And I think that the conglomerate that they had, the trinity that they had, Jay-Z, Dame's, Dame Big, that was

[00:03:12] pretty big. You know, that that really that really that meant something, you know what I'm saying? That that really, really meant something and it it was successful. So when you say he didn't need

[00:03:26] him, you might be saying he didn't need him because you don't like him now. You know, I don't like each other or whatever, but he needed him. You know what I'm saying? I think the only problem

[00:03:36] is that after a while he didn't need him once he was able to get to certain because you got to remember they was trying to break up Rockefeller for a long time. They was trying to take Rockefeller

[00:03:47] and give it to Jay-Z without Dame Dash for a very long time to eventually at work. So the thing that's deep about that is that when you say he doesn't need, he didn't need him, that's kind of

[00:04:04] not fair to Dame because Dame put a lot of work over in at that Rockefeller. You know what I'm saying? Because it wasn't just Jay-Z. It wasn't just Jay-Z. It was Jay-Z, Kanye, Beans, Bleak, State Property. Then when Dipset came and then Dame started, you know,

[00:04:26] signing a bunch of people. But I don't think that that's fair to Dame. You know what I'm saying? I really don't think that that's fair to Dame for him to have said Jay-Z didn't need him.

[00:04:40] You know, I don't think that that's fair. I think Jay-Z did need Dame Dash. But when we dissect the interview where he's talking about riding through the hood and eat chicken and Rolls Royces and stuff, you know, I think Nas could have pulled it off. I

[00:05:00] think Nas, I think if, I think if Baltimore seen Nas pull up, they would have loved it. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you love when, when you're some of your heroes and sheroes pull up

[00:05:10] in the hood. You know what I'm saying? When you see them, you love it. I think they would have loved it. I think they would have accepted it. I think they would accept it seeing Nas. I don't

[00:05:18] think they would have tried to hurt Nas or do nothing to Nas. I think Baltimore would have loved it to see him pop out. You know what I'm saying? They would have loved that. But Irving,

[00:05:28] his delusion, the grandeur of being, you know, whatever he's on once he wanted to do things, in my opinion, for the wrong reasons, he wanted to do things. You know, sometimes

[00:05:43] some black men have the propensity to want to be so street right now, me being out there and partaking in some of the stuff that I partook in, I never really, I never really wanted it

[00:05:58] outside of being in it. So if I'm doing music or we're touring or whatever, I don't want to be street, but I ain't going to front. When I went on tour, every city I wanted that I went to,

[00:06:11] I did want to see the hood. I was fascinated like, yo, where the hood at? You know, I want to see the hood. I want to see how my people is living, but I wasn't nobody though. You know what I'm saying?

[00:06:20] I'm just pulling up. So I wanted to go see where, if I'm in, if I'm in DC, I want to see where the hood of DC, because when people said to me, yo, the hood is, is a right from the white house.

[00:06:34] I'm like the white house got a hood right there. It's the white house. And then they like, yeah, the hood is right by the white house that fascinated me. You know what I'm saying?

[00:06:44] That, that fascinated me. So I wanted to see it. You know what I'm saying? We, you know, when we go to DC, we go and see the white house and we don't even know the hood is the hood by

[00:06:52] the white house. So me being a Brooklyn kid, when they tell me, yo, the hood is right there. I'm like the hood ain't brought a white house. They're like, nah, yes it is. The hood is right by the

[00:07:00] white house. So you're like, oh wow. I want to see, you know what I'm saying? So, and then there was places where we would go and they would say, that's the projects. And I'm like, that's the

[00:07:09] projects. Those buildings are small because in New York, you know, we got tall buildings for project 18 stories and you know, big tall buildings that's project. So I was always fascinated by stuff like that. Just going different places, seeing different hoods, but Nas could have pulled

[00:07:24] that off. But, um, I don't think Irv could have went without Nas. Um, maybe Ja Rule could have pulled it off too. I think if Nas Ashanti and, um, and, and, and, and, uh, Nas pulled up, I think

[00:07:37] the, I think the hood would have loved them. I think that I think Nas all the work he had put in, in the coach. I think he could go anywhere in the world and get embraced and he should,

[00:07:47] you know what I'm saying? Nas should just have a definite pass in any hood, any city, any borough is that's Nas man. You got, and we got to learn to protect our own. We can't be like,

[00:07:58] yo, let's not, let's get them. No, we protect Nas. You know, all he added onto this coaching Nas deserve a pass. You understand what I'm saying? Nas deserve a pass no matter where Nas,

[00:08:10] that's Nas. We protect the Nas out here, you know what I'm saying? And I think he would have got that. But I think Irv, you know, at that particular time, you know, you have 50 breathing

[00:08:20] down his neck and he just wanted to just show now we street, we street, we street, you know what I'm saying? And I think he was just trying to overcompensate with that situation. What else

[00:08:30] did he say in there? The situation with him in fact, Joe is interesting because, um, if you watch my Chris Gotti interview, um, Ashanti did, uh, how we roll. Um, and when Ashanti did how we roll

[00:08:50] for pun, that's what made Chris got, I mean, not Chris, Irv Gotti take us serious as a singer. So I could see why fat Joe has something invested in that, you know? Um, but I think when somebody

[00:09:09] is your man and you think somebody is your man, I think a lot of times dudes are running to the internet opposed to picking up the phone and calling them. Cause that would mean to a certain

[00:09:18] extent, you know, shit, we men, we get these egos. We think we bigger than what's going on. And, and, and we'll see, you know, um, um, somebody do something that then what happened is with

[00:09:31] fat Joe becoming a personality. Now he's gonna is content. And that's one of the dangers of the content game. When you have a friendship with somebody or brotherhood with somebody, a camaraderie with somebody, we can't always make them content. You can't always talk about

[00:09:56] them in a way that you should be able to call them and say, yo, you know, this, that, and the third, but I got to do my content. So when a lot of these artists left the artist seat and became

[00:10:09] content creators or podcasters or talkers, it became dangerous because sometimes you have to talk about your friends and your friends be like, yo, that's my friend. How could you go in

[00:10:20] there and, and, uh, say something about me? You get what I'm saying? But when he leaves the seat of artists and he's a content dude talking, he gonna say something. Now what I didn't understand about

[00:10:41] fat Joe was him. Um, then he called them dusty crackhead bitches though. When at the versus with Ja Rule, then he called him crackhead business or he, or he was just talking about no, Ashanti wasn't there. Was it Shaunti there? I don't remember. Damn. And I remember everything,

[00:10:57] but that versus was kind of forgetful. Was it Shaunti there at the Ja Rule versus? I don't think she was. I know Charlie Baltimore was there and Vita was there. Yes. But he called

[00:11:12] them crackhead bitches. Right? So, I mean, how do, when do we respect women? If they crackhead bitches, we just pick and choose who we respect. You know what I'm saying? It's a, it's a little, it's a little, you know, it's a little, uh, different. So, you know,

[00:11:29] Irv Gotti said something also in the interview when he asked him, did you DJ a Shaunti was thank you. Kendall parks and thank you all Jamal Walters Vita and little mo. Yeah, it was Vita and little

[00:11:46] mo. You write G Brown. So Irv Gotti says something. Yeah, he was. That's why I figured that. I don't think he was talking about a Shanti, but Irv Gotti says something that was deep because

[00:12:02] I feel like, feel like, uh, people feel like Irv is ruining his legacy. But when you did something in this culture, how can you ruin? Well, can you, can you ruin your legacy? I want to know,

[00:12:16] leave a comment in the chat and leave a comment on the actual video for the people that's not in the chat. Can you ruin your legacy? Can you, can you mess up your legacy? Um, uh, uh, uh, uh,

[00:12:31] can you ruin your legacy? Do, do we discard what you did after, after you did? Because think about this. Um, I think people will feel like R Kelly ruined his legacy. Right. Um, of course, Africa Bambaataa. Um,

[00:12:51] they trying with Michael Jackson still like they, they, they, they won't give up on Michael Jackson, but, um, I want to know why y'all don't like Irv though. You know what I'm saying? Cause I,

[00:13:06] is it, is it the, is it the mafia bro? Is it the mob? Is it the mob bravado that he'd give off? Is it that is the, yeah, the guys, is it that, is it, is it that that will bother y'all?

[00:13:18] Is that what bothers y'all? Is it the, is it the, is it the, the, the, the fake mob thing? You know what I'm saying? Um, is that, is that what bothers y'all? Because, um, see for,

[00:13:31] on far more family parts, he said, um, because think about this. Irv was responsible for a lot, man. A lot of that, um, you know, he, he, um, he brought that, he brought Jay-Z to Def Jam. He

[00:13:49] brought, um, Ja Rule to Def Jam and he brought DMX. So if you, if you, when he was saying was when, when he said, when Nori asked him, is he just, we was Mike Geronimo DJ. He,

[00:14:09] he had to let it be known. I was just more than just a nigga playing records because all right, Doggy Diamonds was a DJ. I DJed on the tour, right? I did it on the tour. I wasn't nothing

[00:14:20] else. I just put the damn record on, you know what I'm saying? And hope the record don't skip because back when I DJ, we was, we didn't have the, um, the, the, the, the mixer thing that you

[00:14:31] could put the record in. I put the, I put the rec, I mean that you could put the song and I put the record on the hope the record don't skip honestly, you know? So, um, you know, uh, uh,

[00:14:45] I feel like Irv also gave it up to Tupac. So if you love, like, you know, um, I don't know. I think he says some good things, even though I don't agree with anything. A lot of things he say,

[00:14:59] he says some good things in that interview and Irv did a lot in the culture, you know what I'm saying? So I don't think he should get, um, I don't think he should get penalized for that.

[00:15:10] You know what I'm saying? I don't, I don't think, I don't think he should get penalized for that. He, he, he gave it up to Tupac, um, and put respect on Tupac name, especially in this

[00:15:23] era where it seems like everybody is trying to pull away from Pax legacy, right? He put respect on Tupac name. Um, and I thought that respect was respectable because he even put a respect

[00:15:36] on Tupac name over DMX. You know what I'm saying? Over DMX. And I could, I couldn't agree more, you know what I'm saying? But then there's some people that might say DMX is better than Tupac,

[00:15:48] but he said, yo, nobody is Tupac. Nobody is Tupac. And that, and that was, and that was real. You know what I'm saying? We'll never have another Tupac. Um, so I feel like, you know,

[00:16:03] he gets a lot of, uh, yes, he does get a lot of backlash for the Ashanti situation, but, but, but could we, could we be fair? Let's be fair for a minute. How come Ashanti don't get no backlash

[00:16:23] for the earth situation? Cause it, cause she was just as much in it as he was right. Irv was married. So how does, how does he get cleared in it? That's all I want to know. You

[00:16:37] know what I'm saying? Not saying, you know, he's innocent at all, but how come she's in the clear and every, he gets the brunt of everything. She was fucking with a married man. You know what I'm

[00:16:51] saying? How come everybody just said, you, you, you this, that, and the third. How come she don't get a, no backlash. She don't get no backlash. He was fucking with a married man. You know what

[00:17:08] I'm saying? So, um, and for what I see, some people saying Ashanti was, um, underage, but her mother was dead. So if her mother was there and her mother says, pal,

[00:17:30] we, but I feel like she's not held accountable at all. It's just like, Irv is a piece of shit. Alicia keys get a pass to, you know what I'm saying? Alicia keys get a pass to,

[00:17:49] you know? So, I mean, I see, see people saying Irv was, but her, he explained himself in that interview. He didn't really, he was responding to what Nori said, but let's just put it like this.

[00:18:02] Okay. And I know, um, this is the thing when these situations happen, we all messed up. I'm no better than you. You know, better than me in this situation, right? I'm no better than you. You know, better than me. Um, he gets, he's going to get it because

[00:18:35] Ashanti is a beautiful woman and I'm gonna be, I'm going to be honest with y'all. We'll be honest with y'all. If murder ain't didn't lose to 50 with, with two 50 cent. Will we still have these views? Because when did we start hating them though?

[00:18:57] You know what I'm saying? When I say we, I don't, but I'm just saying, when did people start hating the murder Inc situation was when 50 came out. Right? Because before that you can't front,

[00:19:07] you wasn't awesome. Yo stare, yo smile. Ah, you was doing that shit. And if you act like you wasn't his cat, cause that versus Ja Rule show, he got some smokers. He got some hit records.

[00:19:21] You know what I'm saying? He show he got some hit records. So I felt like when they lost to the 50, that's when everybody turned on him and he was like, Oh, he a herb, he a herb. But

[00:19:33] Irv always was like that job always made hit records. You know what I'm saying? And um, I like, I don't know. I like, I like Irv interviews. I think I would go in a different direction with what I would ask him because I think on the executive level,

[00:19:52] the executive side is more of Irv Gotti that we can, uh, learn than the messy shit because interview tip. And I'm going to reckon and say it is your, a lot of interviews I've been seeing,

[00:20:16] they suck, man. I'm not even disrespecting nobody, but a lot of interviews I be seeing it's the same rehash shit. Like I really got to come out and go do some sit down interviews.

[00:20:28] I'm working on that because a lot of interviews I be seeing, they suck. It's the same rehash shit. And it's like, these are stories that we heard already there. When, when, when, when you interview

[00:20:39] an artist, it's so many directions you could go in. You don't have to state the obvious anymore. We heard in all of these stories, there is more to extract from an artist than what we're hearing.

[00:20:52] Like it's like the same redundant shit. So we get an artist. We know we had this beef with this person. He said about the beef on 20 platforms. Why would you ask them about the same beef that

[00:21:02] we already heard about? It's nothing he's going to say different. We already heard it all, but it's more to extract and, oh man, it's, it's, it's just really bad. This is really bad.

[00:21:14] So if I interview her, I would ask him, um, you know, you was in a studio with a lot of memorable stuff. You was in the studio for a lot of memorable studio sessions. Can you take us there?

[00:21:35] Because one thing that we want, um, from the culture is we want to go there. Take us there with you. Right? So a lot of times when I ask artists stuff, I say, take me there with you. You know,

[00:21:52] what give us the sit and you know, like the, the, the, um, the upper, take us to the upper room. You know what I'm saying? Like, take us to set. And so imagine, you know, Snoop saying, yo,

[00:22:02] I was in the studio and pop walked in and you know, we won. That's what we want to hear. We don't want to hear. So you got beef with such as we know that already how to be started,

[00:22:13] how it turned out. That shit is getting really, really bad. It's getting really, really bad. Um, so I feel like we gotta get to what shaped the culture. The beef didn't shape this culture,

[00:22:29] the creativity. So I'm saying all that to say, if I interview her, you in the studio, you in there with a shanty. And if you look at my Chris Gotti shit,

[00:22:42] he said, Irv was in there on some sing the song. Like I told you anime. So I want to hear that. Like, yo, what was, what was the temperature like when you created that? Because the beef,

[00:22:57] the issues, that's not hip hop. And I feel like we got away from hip hop when we start talking about everything else. That's why the mute, that's why the music sucks because we don't

[00:23:07] talk about the fucking music. So get back to talking about the music. You know what I'm saying? Like shit, if you, if you could be a fly on the wall at any of these sessions,

[00:23:20] you would, any of us would, you know, like when I used to be in the studio, I used to be in awe, like, yo, yo, that shit. He just kicked. Imagine being in the studio and now I say, yo,

[00:23:32] I am ready. And then he go fake dog. No love. You get to slug CB for gusto. You like, Oh, you in the control room. Like, yo, he bodied it. You know what I'm saying? But we don't get to

[00:23:46] hear that no more. We being robbed of the culture talking about war stories. You understand what I'm saying? And, and Irv is actual producer. Irv actually put a lot of these records together.

[00:24:00] So tell us about this. Tell us what it was like putting this record. Tell us about the sample. But I feel like me, I'm the only one that have the knowledge to delve into the production part,

[00:24:11] the part of the making the music. I could talk about the beef, but how is these songs put together? Because we want to know that we don't want to hear fat Joe say him and Biggie got an

[00:24:21] album together that nobody know about. Cause this shit is cat. You know what I'm saying? Nobody seems to know about this. Shout out to everybody coming in the chat room. You know what I'm saying? Nobody seems to know about that. So if you don't extract these stories,

[00:24:35] we going to get a bunch of made up shit. We don't want no made up shit. You know what I'm saying? We don't want no made up shit. We want the truth and we want stuff that can be verified straight like that. You know, I would,

[00:24:55] I would love, I would love to be, um, a fly on the wall and just, just hear this dude just say, yo man, yo, it's all love. Love got a bit thin line. The pump got a big nine. I was like, yo,

[00:25:10] you know what I'm saying? Because I've been in sessions. One of the most, one of my favorite sessions I was in on when ox from belly, uh, Louis Rankin did typewriter. I was there

[00:25:28] and I was like, yo, am I witnessing history right now? And I was there when, um, uh, it's all right. Um, the, the, the R and B song, when I'm saying you, when I'm next to you, I was there for that

[00:25:44] session. I'm like, if I'm here to my witness in history, you understand what I'm saying? Those is that was, um, damn, what big session I was there for. It wasn't give me the loop.

[00:26:01] It was one of them songs. I can't remember. But, um, yeah, but, um, I, you know, I, I like herb, I think, but you know, Jay-Z passed everybody. Right. So what's happening is that I feel like

[00:26:19] it's a lot of people pandering to him. I feel like it's a lot of people that have this anger with him and, you know, on his side, it's a lot of, uh, unresolved issues with Jay-Z.

[00:26:33] Right. Doesn't that, that, that at this point, you know, because when he say make another hole, that's just, you know, make another hole that, that shut all that shit down. Well, we can't take away from Dame greatness and, and, and, you know, I'm gonna be real with you.

[00:27:00] I'm gonna go on the record. Um, I did this stage in a culture. I think Dame and, and, and, and, and, and Irv both of them is old more than to be bombarded with. I think Dame is old more

[00:27:23] and done more in the culture to be bombarded with Jay-Z questions. I promise you, I could speak to Dame for our, and don't even mention Jay-Z. I promise you, I dare him to do an interview with

[00:27:41] me. We'll never mentioned Jay-Z and the whole interview because I don't have to, I don't have to, of course, Jay-Z is a big part of your history, but you've done things outside

[00:27:54] of Jay-Z. Remember this, the guy who helped lead Daniels. This is the guy who gave us Kevin Hart, but Kevin Hart, this is the funniest shit. Kevin Hart was on the BET, um, like a comedy,

[00:28:09] um, contest and Marlon Wayans was the host and the judge. And he told Kevin Hart to his face, you sound like Chris Tucker. You know what I'm saying? So he did, he did paid in full. Like he

[00:28:25] did state property, the movie he did, um, um, paper soldiers, you know, he did shit, but for some reason he gets held to all he did was Jay-Z. You know what I'm saying? And I don't, and I

[00:28:40] really don't think that's fair to him. And you know, it's so bad that all he can do is seem bitter today. Like Irv Irv did so much in the IRV did a lot in the culture too, believe it or not, Irv did

[00:28:57] a lot. But what happens is Irv just gets put in a category of you lost to 50 and you mad at Ashanti. That's all he get. That's all he get credit for. And we got to remember, he did Mike Geronimo. He

[00:29:17] did the time to build record that had a guy named Ja Rule on it. A guy named Jay-Z on it and a guy named DMX on it. So Irv put all of them together a long time ago before it was a murder Inc. He put

[00:29:30] all of them on it. You understand what I'm saying? And that's the things that I feel like, um, he should be talking about, you know? So I feel like they both legends. They both did a lot in our

[00:29:47] culture, man. They both did a lot in our culture and they should be, Elliot Wilson wants to start a petition that no more, no more Irv Gotti interviews. I don't know what that's about.

[00:29:59] I don't know what that's about. You know what I'm saying? But he wants to start a petition of no more, um, no more, uh, Irv Gotti interviews. And I don't know what that's about, but, um,

[00:30:10] yeah, Irv did a lot, man. Um, shit, Irv, uh, yeah, Irv saved Def Jam. Not only that, shit, he saved Fat Joe. Fat Joe didn't have them, them big ass records.

[00:30:26] You know what I'm saying? He, he, that, that, um, well, that's, you know how on fire Ashanti and Ja Rule was when, when, when he did that, um, that was love record. That was, that was Irv.

[00:30:40] You know what I'm saying? That shit was big. That was a big ass record for Fat Joe. That was love shit. I didn't like it, but it was big. You know what I'm saying? So,

[00:30:52] and then think about history at that time. We wasn't rocking with Ja Rule cause 50 was that, um, he was that, that, that, that, that bulldozer coming through right at the versus at the versus Cameron do welcome to New York city

[00:31:20] with Jay-Z. So I'm like, Oh no, you ain't beating that. How Jay the kids beat how Jay the kids beat. Welcome to New York city, Cameron and Jay-Z with a record with Ja Rule.

[00:31:35] When you heard that, man, I got a hundred guns and guns. We slept on a New York record when it was out right or wrong. We didn't rock with the record. And that's the reason why 50 got mad at

[00:31:48] Jada and Fat Joe because they did that record with him. But looking back at the versus we had to say, that shit sound fire. That shit sound fire. Well, we slept on it when it came out.

[00:32:03] That's when 50 did piggy bank. So we was, you know what I'm saying? We was, uh, uh, uh, we was, we was blinded. But when that, I got a hundred guns and covers cause that was like, Ooh, I was a big, that was a big New York

[00:32:21] record. That was a bit, but see, but I like, no, I do like welcome to New York city better. But when I'm saying the record was crazy, well, we, we didn't rock with it because of our affinity

[00:32:34] for, for fit for 50 at the time. You know what I'm saying? But nah, that shit was, that shit was big, man. That shit was big. You know what I'm saying? Just that now niggas were sleeping on a New York

[00:32:46] record. Niggas ain't fuck with the New York record because niggas was, was like niggas 50s G unit out and they had smoke, you know, 50 has smokers. I ain't going front G unit. Whoa, we go, you know

[00:32:58] what I'm saying? But, um, nobody was really fucking with murder Inc after that. You know what I'm saying? And, um, that's what clicky D clank clicky D can't. That's what made piggy banks

[00:33:08] song come out, which was a horrible disc record to piggy bank was trash. Nobody's gonna admit that, but I'll admit that shit probably piggy bank was trash. One thing he said was dope. He said the

[00:33:20] nigga liked the Ninja turtles and he had a cartoon video that was dope. But other than that, what clicky clank wasn't, it wasn't no dope, right? You know what I'm saying? Um, now another thing that took place in the interview prodigy book. Now

[00:33:42] the thing about prodigy book was so deep because I was immersed in that prodigy book set the industry on fire and everybody that was, he wrote about they, I interviewed them. I interviewed Cadillac tie. I interviewed Capone. I interviewed Mike DeLorean.

[00:34:08] I interviewed everybody that he talked about in that book in a derogatory way. So what was deep about that? I had a lot of love for prodigy, but, um, it, it, it, it seems like

[00:34:24] I didn't have no love for P but I did, but people asked me to do an interview and at that time, you know, uh, people feel away as they do now, but it's a little bit open. But back then you

[00:34:38] got to remember I had to go on the street to do the interview. I had to go to park city to interview caddy and, and, and Merce. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to them.

[00:34:46] I had to go to Queensbridge to interview Capone. And as I'm interviewing Capone, Mike DeLorean shout out to Mike D walking down the block. So he just, this is, this is, spur of the moment. I didn't know Mike DeLorean was going to walk down the block.

[00:35:02] You know what I'm saying? So when I revisit that, that was a time, right? So Nori was asking Irv, did he believe prodigy book? Because I'm telling you, I don't know how many,

[00:35:18] how long many of you been watching what's going on in the culture. If you go that far back, or if you remember when I was outside, what are doing the interviews, that shit was, that shit was deep. That when, when that shit happened, when that book was written,

[00:35:36] that shit set the shit on fire, man. That shit stashes said to show them everybody's calling me, yo, pull up, pull up, pull up. So I'm like, Oh shit, I gotta go to Queensbridge. Oh shit. You

[00:35:45] know what I'm saying? And I'm a Brooklyn nigga in the middle of Queens shit. You know what I'm saying? Ferg brim. I don't even know if y'all shot on me. I don't even know if y'all shot on me.

[00:35:53] I think Ferg brim might be a locked up, but shout out the Ferg brim, you know, um, a free Ferg brim. You know what I'm saying? It was a lot of shit that happened because remember

[00:36:03] mob deep had broke up around the time that book came out. Y'all don't even really pay attention to that. They broke up, they broke up, you know what I'm saying? And, um, it was just a bad time.

[00:36:15] And he asked her, do he believe prodigy book because prodigy put a lot of shit in his book that a lot of people were saying was lies. But Irv said he believes some of that shit.

[00:36:30] Chris Gotti also told me personally, he believed certain shit. You understand what I'm saying? So that shit was just a, Ooh, that shit was a lie. And I'm like, Oh shit. I'm going to go to

[00:36:42] say what I'm saying. So that shit was just a, Ooh, that shit was a, um, that shit was a shit storm. You know what I'm saying? That shit was a, was a shit storm. I think the audio book might be

[00:36:53] online. Oh, I interviewed allergy. Like it, it was a, I don't know what product. Well, I think he was locked up when he started it. But when he wrote that book,

[00:37:06] he leave no stone unturned. He kicked everybody in the ass that he felt like kicking in the ass. And, um, it was a lot with the book because a lot of people felt like they had to defend the book.

[00:37:17] It put, um, it put, it put, um, it put havoc in a very bad position. Let's just say that it put havoc. Um, my infamous life by prodigy don't read though. There's an audio book too. Um, now,

[00:37:36] now this, the wild shit too. Um, sharing the word free, show him the worm. You know what I'm saying? A shout out to Lakey to Lakey, the kid, Lakey is the homeboy. Um, Lakey is the homie.

[00:37:48] Um, and Sherm is the homie. So I go to see one of my own, one of my peoples, one of my people, you know, in prison. Cause you know, we, we still check the homies behind the G wall and shit.

[00:38:01] So I went to go see one. I went upstate to see one of the homies. So as soon as I'm on the floor, I just see the doggy diamonds. What's up? I'm like, sure. Sure. You know what I'm saying?

[00:38:15] So Sherm, I seen Sherman, the worm in jail on the visiting floor. You know what I'm saying? And, um, he told me some things on the situation was just ugly. You know what I'm saying? It was

[00:38:28] just an ugly situation on rest in peace to prodigy. Free Sherm shout out the Lake. You know what I'm saying? Lake also has a book out call. Um, let me get, let me see something. Let me see something really quick. Hold on one second. Hold on one second.

[00:39:03] Hi, I'm live on you. Say it again. You get from talking, but yeah, it's sad. You go to two forward.com. All right. I got a Lakey Lake on the phone. So say it again for them. Lake, the name of the book and where they could get it.

[00:40:00] Yeah. The name of the book is and the meaning of two forward is the euphoria you get from talking and you can get it from two forward.com. All right. Um, text me the spelling so I

[00:40:12] could put that in there. I'll do it right now, brother. All right. I'll be with you later. Peace. Peace. Hi. Call me Lake. You just make calls. You know what I'm saying? Tapped in with everybody. You know what I'm saying? But, um, yeah. Um, the book,

[00:40:28] the book, oh, I got to get my copy too. Yo stay tuned for that Lake interview coming soon. That's all I'm gonna say. I'm tapped in on some different shit. You know what I'm saying? But the forum, um,

[00:40:43] let me see. He's going to text it to me right now. As soon as he texts it to me, I'm going to put it out there. Um, from what I'm seeing, um, my bro, the big fruit,

[00:40:51] the real big fruit, a lot of people got the book, Meno got the book. You know what I'm saying? And, um, yeah. So, um, like I was saying, um, Irv believed the book and that was deep to me

[00:41:10] when he said that in the interview, he believed some of this shit. So, um, man, listen, hold on. He's giving me, give it to me right now. This book is crazy though. The forer. Okay.

[00:41:26] Okay. Um, I'm looking right now. Got you. Okay. So it's the forest. So that would be T H U P H O R A shop. Okay. So let me, let me, let me get this for y'all. No, the forward.com. So

[00:42:02] this is what it looks like. Let me, let me take the contrast down a little bit. I mean, the brightness, this is what it looks like still bright as hell. Let me see. You know what? This

[00:42:16] is what we do. This is what we do. I'll show it to y'all in real time. Here we go. So this is lakes. Uh, this is where you could get the book at the forward.com. This is the merch.

[00:42:46] Oh wow. Look at the book. I forgot he was, yeah, he was death row east. Oh, you can read some of the excerpts. Okay. The forward.com make sure you go there. Uh, it's your book, man. Get your book. Um, here we go to book right here.

[00:43:06] Get the book right here. I'm going to make sure the homie shit right in here. Yeah. Get your book. So yeah, we'll, we'll put that in there. Wow. You can read some excerpts. I've got some reading to do later. So I'm gonna put

[00:43:23] that in a chat really quick. Um, and for the view interested, make sure you pick up his book. There we go. So that's where you get the book right there. You know what I'm saying? And also

[00:43:41] I'm going to make it the first pin comment on this video. You know what I'm saying? But Lake is Lake is the homie, you know what I'm saying? So, um, like I said, free sherm. So yeah. Um,

[00:43:54] prodigy wrote the book and Irv said he believed it. And that to me was like, wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. And then he, then he said some shit to say about caddy. I don't

[00:44:05] got nothing to do with that. Him dudes, his brother, caddy is a good friend of mine and bro, you know what I'm saying? So I'm staying out of that. But, um, that shit got really, really messy.

[00:44:16] You know what I'm saying? It really, really got messy, but you know, besides the shanty situation, um, besides the shanty situation, besides the 50 situations, that's why y'all don't like them. That's why y'all like her or you feel like, uh,

[00:44:37] so y'all don't like Irv the person, or do y'all got an issue with Irv? Do y'all got to Irv with CEO of the CEO as, as y'all got an issue with Irv the CEO or Irv the person. What is it? What is

[00:44:50] your issue? Cause it seems like, you know, people just don't like him. You know what I'm saying? So I want to know, um, what is it that people don't like about her? What is it about him that rubs

[00:45:03] you the wrong way that you just be like, man, to hell with him. You know what I'm saying? But, um, yeah, did you serve a dope? No. And then he said he was sick. So, um, um, he said he was sick.

[00:45:21] He said he was sick. Now this is the one thing, right? Um, my brother rest in peace. When, when he, my brother worked for, um, keyspan, which used to be Brooklyn union gas.

[00:45:40] Then it turned into a keyspan. Right. And he was on medical disability and he said, yo man, I used to, I used to work all the time until I got sick. That's what my brother said. Right. So

[00:45:54] I had to try to rewire his thoughts. Right. I just say to my brother, your bro, you diabetic, you're not sick. You live with the ailment that millions of people live with.

[00:46:15] You're not sick. You just diabetic. You can deal with it. You can handle it and you can manage it. So I think a lot of times when people say they sick, if you think you sick, you're going to be

[00:46:36] sick. So I used to say that to my brother, yo, you're not sick, sick people in the hospital, sick people in hospice, it's too late for them. You out here. But if you tell yourself you're sick,

[00:46:50] your body is going to react to what you told, which your brain told your body. Right. So many people live with diabetes. Many people live with high blood pressure. Many people live

[00:47:06] with a lot of ailments. You have an ailment. I used to say, bro, you got an ailment. You're not sick. Stop saying you're sick. You just got an ailment. Need some goddamn water. Don't eat no

[00:47:16] cupcakes and you're good and drop some weight. You're good. But I feel like when it comes to our health, it's a state that we go in because first thing that we deal with, we don't believe

[00:47:32] that we'd be like, yo, how could I be sick? Why me? Why me? Why? Why am I sick? You might have people who have HIV. You might have you say, why me? How did this happen? Well, you know what?

[00:47:44] Why not you? Right. None of us is exempt for anything. None of us is exempt from anything. So anything that come to you, you just got to handle it. You know what I'm saying? Because

[00:47:57] you can't for every solution, you can't come up with a new problem. Right. For every problem, you come up with a solution. But for every people be living on some every, every solution,

[00:48:08] they find a new problem. Right. So when Irv was like, he's sick, you know, he got diabetes. One thing I heard in him that I didn't like, I heard a little bit of defeat.

[00:48:33] I heard a little bit of defeat. That troubled me a little bit. He looked and seemed tired, like he came there and he was on some he's not drinking, but he looked defeated because

[00:48:55] people were saying he's high, you know, he looked mad skinny. To me that looked like a defeated person. Honestly, that looked like a defeated person. So sometimes when a person feels defeated,

[00:49:12] they overcompensate with ego. You got to remember some people are insecure. So how do you get how they run from the insecurities? They over overcompensate with ego. So maybe that's why he's like that. Maybe he's, you know, he feel like his body's betraying him. He's going through stuff

[00:49:34] stuff and he has to be a certain way because he feels defeated. Could be that. You understand what I'm saying? So, um, it's a part of me that always empathizes with everybody

[00:49:50] because I, me, when I, when, when I deal with people, I'm able to see their, their soul. When I interview people, you know what I'm saying? I'm able to see stuff and I let people talk. And,

[00:50:06] you know, a lot of times when, when, when you let people talk long enough, they'll tell you what you need to hear. But I find like a lot of times with interviewers, even Noreen, um, they have an

[00:50:19] agenda or how they want to interview that day. Just got a gym in the middle of the interview. But they don't know how to live with the gym, right? He just said something that was your gym.

[00:50:40] And then you'll just ask another question. But see me, I'm the type when I do my thing, when you say something to me, you just can change. You just changed the complete landscape of the outline I had in my head. So again, a lot of times

[00:51:00] he's in a situation where look at him. He looked to me, he looked lethargic. He looked very lethargic. He looked out of it. So it was easy for her to say, yo, he's on drugs.

[00:51:15] He's just at a third. Yo, your blood sugar levels is when you're, when I seen people, when they sugar went up, that shit is not pretty. Some people go into a coma right on the spot.

[00:51:29] You understand what I'm saying? So, um, he might be in a situation where his, his diabetes is, is, uh, not under control and it does affect you emotionally. I'm not capping for him. I'm just

[00:51:45] telling you the truth. It affects you emotionally. I see my big brother, my, my, my older brother, my master, what this, one of the strongest men that I know in my life because he had this ailment

[00:52:00] be defeated. And I remember going to go into my brother, uh, crib one time. And I was like, yo man, what's going on? He was like, yo man. I'm like, yo man, come on man. Like, cause that's the

[00:52:16] type of friend that I am. I'm not all or brother. I am. I ain't letting you, you ain't gonna lay down and die while I'm around. Yo, what are we doing? Come on, man. You gotta get up. You gotta get up.

[00:52:28] And I remember my brother being in the hospital and I said to him, yo man, hurry up and get out of here, man. I'm a whoop your ass. You know what I'm saying? And, and,

[00:52:41] and, and, and the diabetes affect people so poorly that they start losing limbs or you're afraid you're going to lose limbs. You know, certain shit does things to you psychologically. Right? So imagine being rich and you think you're going to lose an arm. DJ,

[00:53:08] I'm going to tell you something. I never tell nobody, but I'm going to tell you go suck that nigga dick. Don't ever in your fucking life. Tell me to repair a relationship with somebody that I

[00:53:18] don't got a relationship with. I'm not that forgiving friend. I don't fuck with you. I don't fuck with you. There is no going back. Okay. So get the fuck up out of my chat with that.

[00:53:29] Don't try to trigger me. We talking some real shit and you talk about a fucking bozo. If you like that bozo, did you go over there and fuck with him over here is grown man talk.

[00:53:40] Okay. Get the fuck up out of here with that. Any bozo that I used to fuck with that I don't fuck with. If you like them, go fuck with them. Now that's that. Now, as I was saying,

[00:53:53] I watched my brother say, yo, I got sick and I used to have to talk to him. Yo bro, you're not sick, but at the, you know what it is. Sometimes you have to change your life and people don't

[00:54:13] want to change their life. You know, you can't go get a $5 filler. You can't drink the Pepsi. You can't do some of that shit. And, and, and, and people don't want to give that shit up like

[00:54:24] me. I think about when I changed my lifestyle, it was a mental thing. It was like, yo, people say, yo, how you lost weight? I said, well, once I lost the weight off my mind and fell off my body,

[00:54:34] because I had to realize, I had to realize that I had to change. Now imagine being, you made all these records, you did all this shit, right? You got all the success, but your body is betraying you. You gotta remember your body is betraying you.

[00:54:59] Mentally it fucks with you. So sometimes when you see dudes and they bitter or they angry, they are going through something. So when he said, yo man, I got diabetes. I had it for a while.

[00:55:18] Just look at, just look at how he sounded when he said that, that was defeat. You understand what I'm saying? That was coming from a place of defeat. So right there when I saw him and when I,

[00:55:37] when he said that, I was like, nah, nah, I know. I know. I know now, now, now I understand because you got to understand is yeah. Oh, oh, oh my, oh my fire. That shit depressing man. Like when you

[00:55:57] sick, you're the loneliest places you could ever be in life. Let me tell you the three times you're the most loneliest when you in jail, when you in the hospital and when you got to move, nobody's

[00:56:13] ever there to help you move your shit. It's just you, the movers, all you can have 20,000 people in your crib. You're like, yeah, I'm packing the move. I so hit me when you get to your new spot.

[00:56:23] You know what I'm saying? Then, um, you know, so that's what I think it really is with him. I think he, I think he's sick. I think a lot of people that they're, they're, they're Dame is sick

[00:56:40] to Dame is sick to Dame is sick too. According to him, you understand what I'm saying? Dame has the same ailment. So sometimes when you see them and they're angry, when you see them, yo, they feel

[00:56:57] these men are millionaires. They seen a lot of paper. They had a lot of friends come and go, and they might feel like their body is betraying them. No, I'm mad. You know, I respectfully,

[00:57:09] I couldn't imagine having to get up every day and take a shot. I got to stick myself with a fucking needle. So when you see them in the angry and a bitter, they going through some shit.

[00:57:22] So that's why I love talking to y'all about hip hop. But sometimes we got to extract the hip hop and start knowing and looking at dudes as humans, because this person's going through this. You

[00:57:36] know, everybody in their family don't have a fat mom. You know what I'm saying? A fat mom, you know, her sugar bad and all that. You understand what I'm saying? So a lot of times

[00:57:45] they dealing with a lot of shit and they might seem angry, but they, yo man, imagine having to get up, stick yourself with a needle every day or you do this and you feel you get dizzy. You in

[00:58:02] the hospital, your sugar, you understand what I'm saying? That shit. And that's something that plagues our community. You know what I'm saying? And, um, I feel like every time we see Dane, I feel like spiritually it's bigger than Jay-Z and all that. Your body is betraying you.

[00:58:27] Think about that. Like nobody can do something to you like your own body could. You understand what I'm saying? So that's a lot of times. Yeah. The food that we taste so good,

[00:58:41] the food that tastes good is the food that's no good for us. Yeah. A lot of people are diabetic. A lot of people in our community is diabetic. What does diabetes do? It affects every organ

[00:58:51] in your body, but it go right to your damn kidneys. Then you on dialysis, then you on dialysis, then you need kidney transplant. Then you need all this shit. You don't have a match. Dialysis darkens your skin, right? It darkens your skin and people

[00:59:09] who are on dialysis respectfully have a certain smell to them. You know? So again, man, it's a lot that you go through. So I be forgiving them sometimes. Sometimes I'll be like, yo man,

[00:59:25] he under a lot. You know what I'm saying? He under a lot of, he under a lot right now. You know what I'm saying? You, he under a lot and I wish he'd get his mental health together

[00:59:36] gather because mentally you can see a lot of them are ailing and suffering. We remember Dane. We remember Dane being fly. Remember Dame. And then now when you see him, he's like a shell of himself,

[00:59:50] but you got to remember something. He's been, he's felt like he's been robbed. You understand what I'm saying? A lot of us feel like they've been robbed. And when I see him, when I see Dame and Irv to a certain extent, they're like mirror images of each other,

[01:00:15] right? They're like mirror images. One might accomplish more in this and one might accomplish more than that, but they're like mirror images of each other. You know what I'm saying? And, and, and they both are on there speaking from a perspective of people antagonize them

[01:00:39] Dame because OJZ don't fuck with you and Irv Ashanti don't fuck with you and 50 destroyed you. And that's why I say sometimes, you know, dudes is going to be cocky and arrogant because that's

[01:00:55] all they got. Yo, I'm going to tell you something, not them, but a lot of men are so emasculated, so emasculated that all they have is toughness. That's why they get on here. They be foaming at

[01:01:16] the mouth and going all crazy cause that's all they have. You know what I'm saying? Seriously, some men are so emasculated. They can't add on to their household. They're not earners. You know what I'm saying? They in there, they might be in a house doing domesticated shit

[01:01:33] that been considered woman shit cause they can't add on. They don't have no skill. They don't have anything. So what they do when you see them, they turn because that's the only time they get to be

[01:01:45] and feel like a man. You understand what I'm saying? So they come on and you see them go, yo, and you just like, yo, why are you like that? Why are you so mad? Cause that nigga was just

[01:01:58] folding panties. You know what I'm saying? Or that nigga was just, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, dusting corners and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like you don't get to be,

[01:02:10] you don't feel like a man. So they come online and they get crazy. And that's what a lot of, what a lot of men be going through. You know what I'm saying? That's what a lot of men be

[01:02:22] going through. They know they not earners. They know they not adding on. So they found a way now, YouTube is the new way. Now Instagram is a new way and any dollar you give them,

[01:02:33] they get to say, Oh shit, I just got $10 in cash apps. I could get some cigarettes now. I ain't gotta ask wifey for no cigarettes or I ain't gotta ask wifey for no food. I, you know what I'm

[01:02:44] saying? They feel, they feel empowered. That's what a lot of dudes is doing. I mean, picture what some dudes was doing before you two, they wasn't no earnest. They wasn't getting no fucking

[01:02:54] money. You can see in a dress, you can see how they carry they self. They wasn't getting no, uh, no money. You know what I'm saying? They wasn't getting no money, but now you see,

[01:03:09] they get a couple of dollars and what's the first thing and they could do. He poke his chest. I feel like a man again. So imagine you, and I'm saying this now let's put urbanist situation. Imagine

[01:03:19] you have one of the biggest record labels, you ain't on Jay-Z, you ain't on Ja Rule. Ja Rule was a ringer. You ain't on DMX, you ain't on Shanta, you ain't on all these people. You in

[01:03:29] Def Jam. Then the feds come to kick you out the building. Everybody turn their back on you. You realize who your friends are. One fuckers ain't coming to court. Nobody care. Nobody picking

[01:03:40] up the phone no more. You kicked out the whip right then. Now, first thing you want to say is, yo, I just got a hundred million dollars. I sold everything. I got a hundred million and $200 million a line of credit. You feel like you back again.

[01:03:56] You've been robbed everything. And to a certain extent, you feel like you've been robbed of your manhood because everybody called you a bitch because a woman left you. You know what I'm saying? And women going leave niggas. You know what I'm saying? It ain't, I ain't the first,

[01:04:13] I ain't going to be the last, but imagine, you know, you do a post, you do a post of, um, something you working on and somebody says, Shaunti left you. You know what I'm saying? So the people could, could, could, could, could fuck with you.

[01:04:30] The people in sometimes, yeah, you do have some characteristics or some traits that you need to work on as we all do. But imagine being trolled every day. A Shanti left you, a Shanti left you.

[01:04:41] You like, come on. Nobody give a fuck. You want to do it drives you to disrespect. It drives you to disrespect. And as a man or as a woman is only, but so much of your tongue

[01:04:57] you can hold when you're being trolled. Right? So just think about it. Every time you post something, you could post one of your kids graduation, his people in the comments, a Shanti left you,

[01:05:07] Bozo. It's like the fuck is Shaunti got to do with my son graduating? So then you want to say, yo fuck a Shaunti. But then when you say that all hell going to break loose.

[01:05:23] So you almost got to take the ass whooping and it could be a bit much. Yeah. They said Irv was punching the air. You know what I'm saying? Every time Dame do something, make another hole. You know what I'm saying? No matter what he do

[01:05:41] successful, he got to hear, make another hole, make another hole. Look, when, when, when, when, when he got, when he, um, when he got rushed by the feds, hold on, let me get you the fuck up out of here. Yeah. Oh, they already got him. When,

[01:06:00] when he got rushed by the feds, remember a Shanti was like, she can't do, she can't be down no more. Imagine the betrayal that you feel. You understand what I'm saying? So now,

[01:06:10] now let me give you one respectfully and I'm going to put some respect on her. Now look, we seen, and we see this beautiful woman. That's a Shanti, right? We seen and see this beautiful woman. That's a Shanti, right? But remember who he saw from the beginning,

[01:06:34] he saw the mustache and he saw the sideburns. So we seen what he was a part of. He seen what he was a part of investing it and cleaning up. He won't get no credit for that. You understand what I'm saying?

[01:06:57] You understand what I'm saying? He just get discredited behind the relationship that failed. But we seen this beautiful woman. He is a part of that. He is the one who fucking did that, but he don't get no credit for that. We niggas to give it to Nelly.

[01:07:19] You understand what I'm saying? We, because she looked, I would have walked right. Walk right past her back then. And, and I'm gonna be, and I'm gonna be respectful as much as I can.

[01:07:37] Ain't that great of a singer neither. He could write her ass off, but that's singing. God made his Shanti not her. Okay. Why God ain't tell her to get rid of them sideburns in that stash. So now let me, so anyway,

[01:08:18] and, and, and, and even, and even, um, what's your McCaul it now? They, uh, Nelly did a crazy too. So as much as Nelly get all this credit, they broke up too. You get what I'm saying? You can't. And even look and look, and even with,

[01:08:46] look, and even when, even when a Shanti used to do interviews, look at her old interviews. She used to talk like Irv. She used to talk just like Irv that uncontrollable laughing. She used to act just like Irv straight like that. She used to act like him.

[01:09:04] So, um, you know, um, I don't know. I just don't think she don't get no smoke. I think he get all the smoke smoke and, um, he get all the smoke or get all the smoke and a Shanti get all the love and credit and adoration

[01:09:25] and Irv don't get nothing. He just, he just a clown. Everybody. And I, you know, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's crazy. And even like, like, you know, but, but back to the above topic, um,

[01:09:42] nah, he need, um, he, he needed Dane. He needed Dane. He needed Dane. Um, he, he needed Dane. And I think sometimes the rivalry that Dame and Irv have, because Dame really was like

[01:10:11] super ugly was whack. That was deep to me. Like, you know? So after a while, he just started really like saying how he felt about, uh, Jay Z, but it was, it, it, it looks weird when he say like

[01:10:27] super ugly was like a super ugly was fucking whack. Um, but even though one of the songs Jay Z said as Irv got in, I think he said has got the role if I'm not mistaken.

[01:10:46] But, um, one thing I would never do, um, unless you knew what, well, maybe let's, let's, let's, let's do this. Do we think, do you think Irv would have been privy to the information of what Dame

[01:11:15] really did for Jay Z? Do you think he would be privy to that information? Because Irv had a lot to do with it too. So what, what do y'all think? You think

[01:11:23] he would know something that we didn't know? You know what I'm saying? Did, did you, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. You're a customer. Yeah. Yeah. You're a customer. You know what I'm saying?

[01:11:40] So Irv had a role in Jay Z's career. Do you think that he had, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, was he privy to certain information? Because when he say he didn't need Jay Z,

[01:12:01] Jay Z picked the beats and wrote the raps. I mean, that's cool. But I mean, shit, a lot of dudes out right now picking a on beats and writing a rap. So what happens when the leader studio,

[01:12:11] what happens to the marketing, the promotion? And I feel like Jay Z tried to really, really, um, distance himself when he was like the CEO, where he said that that marketing plan was me.

[01:12:25] I know I ain't get shot up in, um, that one more. Can I say, right? He, he, I felt like he was dissing his self from Dame. Like y'all giving him credit for me, but it was really me.

[01:12:40] I did my bonking and I did my promo. You know what I'm saying? Um, interesting, interesting, interesting. I wonder, I wonder, I wonder, um, um, I wonder if, if Irv knew something that we didn't know.

[01:13:01] I wonder if he knew something that, that we didn't know. One thing I'm gonna give Jay Z credit on, um, because he gets a lot of flack as he should, you know, for certain things,

[01:13:13] but I think the gripe with Jay Z became universal. And I think a lot of people had, had took the gripe with Jay Z and everybody made it their gripe, right? In business, people separate, you know what I'm saying? People separate. And I think, um, uh, it's okay.

[01:13:42] And even when I'm seeing in a thing, people saying, um, Dame dash made Jay Z. I mean, Dame dash made Kanye. How, how do you feel like? So when you say Dame dash made Kanye, do you mean that he

[01:14:00] believed in Kanye? Cause that's not making somebody Kanye push them damn machines. So do you, do you send, why are y'all saying Dame made Kanye? Because you feel like he believed in Kanye. That's not making him.

[01:14:20] You know what I'm saying? That's not making Kanye. Kanye, we can see by his documentary. He was determined, you know? And I understood what Kanye went through because when I was making the transition from

[01:14:35] being a producer and a DJ, and I was saying, yo, I want to do media. I remember people saying to me, yo man, yo, uh, don't don't, um, yo, you don't want to be a DJ. Yo, you don't want to set to such.

[01:14:49] And I was like, nah, I'm doing this. And people don't always see the vision. So imagine you Jay-Z, you Beanie Siegel, you're bleak. You, you, you know, you, these rappers and Kanye coming in rapping.

[01:15:07] They didn't, but listen, nobody believed in me either. When I was making the transition to media, nobody knew that I was going to do this. I knew what I was going to do, but how do you

[01:15:20] understand it? If you're used to seeing me on the machines and I say, yo, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pick up a camera and direct videos. So you like you're going, what? You understand what I'm saying? So, um,

[01:15:38] he was gonna, he was going to remember he was trying to go to, um, rock his records. Remember rock his records, uh, passed him, passed on him. You know what I'm saying? Jay-Z ain't sounding no goddamn big L could just stop with the big L

[01:15:58] shit respectfully. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be real with the big, big L was incredible, but some of y'all wasn't even around when big L was out. Honestly, he became a phenomenon because honestly y'all love when people get killed. Y'all respect people who die.

[01:16:17] And I bet you, you can't even name four big L records for me. I know his records, his songs, and I don't see, I don't see nobody playing it. I don't see nobody tweeting it. I don't

[01:16:32] see none of that. But because you got somebody to compare big L to, you want to take out Jay-Z with big L. Big L was dope, but he never rhymed like big L ever,

[01:16:51] like big L ever, ever. So y'all can stop with that. You know what I'm saying? Hi-ya. Do you know, I heard Jay-Z in like way before y'all did I'm from Brooklyn.

[01:17:16] We get tapes around the hood. We get tapes all around. I heard big L on a tour bus in 1992 from Lord finesse directly, directly from Lord finesse. So why y'all, why y'all keep saying

[01:17:33] y'all keep comparing big L to Jay-Z or he's better than J and this is the problem with our culture. We don't let Kings be Kings, man. Let's stop with the comparison. Shit. Stop saying

[01:17:46] this one was better than this one. No other coaches do that shit. You don't see golf Brooks saying he's better than fucking achy, breaky heart. They don't do that shit. He rapped like jazz zone, slowed it down. Like Nas. No the fuck he didn't. That's another rumor.

[01:18:07] You know what I'm saying? But you don't see golf Brooks is better than better than, uh, Billy Ray Cyrus. They don't do that shit. Only us. We got to have one. That's why we always be hurting because we, we, we, we look in the shit on them.

[01:18:26] Big L respectfully has been deceased for a long time. Left us with some good records, some good freestyles, but come on man, that don't take away what Jay-Z did for the culture. That shit ain't right. That shit ain't right. You know what I'm saying? And again,

[01:18:46] don't let your hate of a person that you don't know blind you of the fucking music because you can't when you hit, but like everything Nas do right by, Oh, he better than Jay-Z. That's it.

[01:18:58] That broke. So you felt that way 20 albums ago. Why the fuck you keep saying that shit? Everything Nas do. He better than Jay-Z than Jay-Z dropped the God did verse and the whole

[01:19:14] industry stops like, Oh, let's let them all do their thing. You know what I'm saying? Let them all do their thing and let them all rock. You know what I'm saying? I just got to chill with that

[01:19:32] shit. Like we allow, listen, listen, and our culture, we allowed to have greats. The more greats we have, the bigger the culture is, the bigger it is. Now I will say this. I feel like

[01:19:47] if anybody Jay-Z copy Sonny Chiba, that's just my opinion. You hear how Sonny Chiba talk. That's my man and motherfucking and, and, and, and, and, and when he was like, how much money you need to

[01:20:08] go shopping? You heard Jay-Z say that. So I was like, why are you talking like that? How much money you need to go shopping? You don't remember? He said that you don't remember in best of me.

[01:20:19] He said, Carolina blue kicks. How does niggas on my block? You said really bicycle since I was six. That's Sonny Chiba. So the big L thing. No, I might say Sonny Chiba, but I ain't saying no goddamn

[01:20:35] big L. Remember the videos like how much money you need to go shop it? I go, why are you talking like that? And the best of me that was fucking Carolina blue kicks. How does niggas on my block used to

[01:20:52] really buy a sickle since I was six. I was like, yo, nigga sound like the nigga from camp low. I said that, but they was in the same crew. It's a feeling it version of camp low.

[01:21:12] Shout out to Chiba. He going to call. See y'all gonna make me y'all gonna make them call me now. You want to hear something deep too? You want to hear some deep, you know, Beyonce got a part of

[01:21:30] her show where she starts singing to Lucini right? Remember Sonny Chiba said that Jay-Z wanted Lucini beat and they wouldn't give it to him. It's a part of Beyonce show where she come out singing to Lucini. All I'm gonna say, all I'm gonna say, yeah.

[01:22:11] He sang to Lucini facts, but shout out to everybody, man. Um, shout out to man. Shout out to everybody, man. Like, you know, this fuck my ops. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a fuck about them. They don't fuck about none of these

[01:22:35] niggas. No, I'm saying seriously. I DJ DJ say goodbye. Say goodbye to everybody. Now say bye DJ. Everybody say bye to DJ one, two, three. Bye DJ. He's thinking is a psychopath song. Cause y'all

[01:23:06] get them likes up to, you know, these niggas be crazy. Right? Some of these people, some of these people be off and have access to the internet. You know, that's not a good combo, right?

[01:23:26] You know what I'm saying? Let's really think about that. They, that's not a good combo. This nigga said Beyonce was going to bring Africa band bottle on her tour. Now you got to go and see

[01:23:40] now you gotta go. Now you gotta go. You done slid down a razor blade into a pool of alcohol. I come on, man. See, they be so busy. Used to watching this Bozo, you know, all these antics

[01:24:00] and shit. And you know, they so used to watching that, that they keep forgetting when they you, they see somebody who was intelligent, calm, and got, you know, uh, knowledge. They don't,

[01:24:13] they don't know how to do that shit. Cause I'm going to be real. All these niggas wear shades because of me. Remember I used to get dishes for wearing shades all the time. Now look at all these

[01:24:24] niggas. Remember I used to get this. Oh, he always wearing shades. Why are you wearing shades in the daytime? Now look at all of them. I'm an innovator. Everybody used to be yo,

[01:24:41] you always wearing shades. You always went now look at all of them. Niggas wasn't going live. They wasn't doing none of that shit. They get trying to go live at the same time. I do a bunch

[01:24:58] of weird shit taking place. What could I do? You know what I'm saying? First? Yeah. First they try to diss you. Then they say, that's not a bad idea. Maybe I'll do that shit. First person to bring up

[01:25:14] a lot of content. Everybody want to deal with the spooky shit and the mysticism and this happened. Anyway. Yeah. They was trying to front, you know what I'm saying? But I just be, I be, I be,

[01:25:41] I be peeping them. Yo, I just saw a YouTube where niggas stole my whole thumbnail. He covered my logo. He took my artwork and just used it for his shit and cover my artwork. I'm like, yo,

[01:25:54] this shit getting crazy. Oh, what time is it? 11 o'clock. I missed my little niece call. I think they was fighting over Minecraft. My nieces, my niece. Yeah. I told her to call me tomorrow, but Oh yeah. If y'all can remember pick up Lake book.

[01:26:16] Um, I gotta get my copy. Shout out to Jean deal as well. I got to get my copy of his book. Um, I got some books to read. So with that man, yo, I bid y'all good night. Um,

[01:26:36] yeah. Nigga took my thumbnail and just covered my logo. I'm like, God damn. What the hell? What did I find? I found some more content in here too. Hold on one second. Hold on one second.

[01:26:57] Make another phone call for you. Hold on one second. Yo, what's good. I'm live on YouTube. How are you going to go to Clinton Hill day? You ain't, you ain't tell me. Man, I ain't know yet. Actually tell somebody, but now I know you was pulling up.

[01:27:48] No, it was amazing, man. It was dope. I seen it was a good vibe. You know, I didn't know you actually get to see yourself in the eyes of those people that you grew up with.

[01:28:01] A child. So it was an exhilarating experience for me because I was able to see in firsthand up close the development to psychology of my environment. I'm saying firsthand, especially PS 11 park. Oh, no, that is a, um, that is a holy space beyond our understanding.

[01:28:30] It might be built on some burial grounds. I was going to think that, well, we, we kind of buried a few niggas in that park too, though. Like kicked a couple of asses.

[01:28:39] Yo, but I'm on the phone. If the audience don't know, I'm on the phone with my brother, AA Rasheed. Somebody already picked your voice up. They said that's AA. They already picked it up, but this is, this is the bro right here. Yo, what?

[01:28:52] But the thing is that before the subway system, they built the subway on top of burial ground. So when you go all the way down, there's a reason between, there's a reason why there's like back in

[01:29:07] the day when we was kids, it was seven churches on gates Avenue between, uh, no strength in Marcy. You remember that? And did this housing project right there across the street on that same block.

[01:29:23] So that was back in the day when men start, if you had a brownstone, you buried your own folks in the backyard. So a lot of these people are buying brownstones for these exorbitant amounts of money. And I already experienced and seen this, that people

[01:29:45] have been moving. They've been like, yo, some people energy is the stop for the setting. So we, you know, I'm into spirit. Spirit is the biggest thing. You know, that's the biggest story

[01:30:00] on our narrative. I'm saying facts, facts, which you call me, man. Yeah. What you're working on, bro. Well, I got, I'm going to let you come up and I'm writing a book as you calling me right now.

[01:30:19] I'm composing a book called the dark of the covenant, not the arc of the covenant, the dark of the covenant. Cause you know, everybody thinks that our salvation will be in the light of Christ, but the whole world disrespect us because they think that darkness

[01:30:41] or the color black is evil, but blackness is the color of truth. Blackness is the color that your intention and your magic is working. So the color of the entropy in tropic force, you know what I'm saying? Is real. We will all check out and everybody that's alive.

[01:31:09] The whole duty is to give a legacy for those who are living and make the living, make living people have a far easier way of this world, bro. Yeah. This is hard out here. Can facts, facts, facts,

[01:31:26] facts. All right. So, um, yeah, we going bills shit. You know, I'm gonna hit you up later on when I'm off this. He said, love you, bro. Thank you. I love you too. All right. Later.

[01:31:40] That's my brother. Hey, Rashid. Y'all that's Ahmed, but y'all know him as a Rashid. So since we was little kids, he always talked like that real deep. We were little. He was our first Sharif

[01:31:54] like yo Sharif. Nobody want to hear that shit Sharif, but now I want to hear that shit Sharif. You know what I'm saying? So sometimes I just let them just talk. Sometimes I just

[01:32:05] let them kick it. You know what I'm saying? And if you don't know who he is, he's on a lot of the intros of the West side gun albums. You know what I'm saying? So that that's my sandbox brother.

[01:32:14] You know what I'm saying? Sandbox brother. Um, yeah. And, um, the dope thing about life and my life is that I'm not the smartest person. I know sometimes I talk to people who

[01:32:29] are smarter than me. Um, and I get to counsel with them and they get to fill me in and stuff and, and, and give me direction. You know what I'm saying? Because they get on me. They'd be like,

[01:32:41] yo, come on man. You know, when I do nigga shit or when I, um, you know, vibrate low, they'd be like, yo, look, come on man. What are you doing? And then sometimes I have to,

[01:32:56] yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm saying you're right. You know what I'm saying? But, um, that's what it is, man. So I'm a holler at y'all. Um, the crock pot, absolutely nothing. You know what I'm saying? But I'm black. Yeah,

[01:33:10] I love it. I love when we talk about blackness. You know what I'm saying? I love it. All right. I got it in. I gotta, I gotta, um, edit these interviews for y'all.

[01:33:21] I found a lot of stuff, man. I found a lot of interviews and yeah, I ain't been, I ain't been doing right. I ain't been doing right. I found, I found a lot of interviews

[01:33:33] and I got to get them out. Uh, let me see. This is, I found this. What are these people? Oh, that's the audio. Okay. Let me see if I could find the video because I

[01:33:46] found the, um, I found a lot of stuff, found a lot of stuff. I was looking, um, you, and you know what's funny? I got a part two to Eric Sermon that I gotta put out, man.

[01:34:05] I got like an already famous actress, but, um, but I paid them, you know, $150,000 for the, for the family and $50,000 for the lawyers. So the whole thing cost me $200,000, you know,

[01:34:18] but it was too late because the record was already playing. See, they already had the record going. So they was able to see $1,000. It was like already a famous actress, but, um, so what he's talking about right here, he's talking about the music record, how he had to

[01:34:34] clear it, but Nona Gaye was famous already and he had to pay Nona Gaye. I looked at my beats first. That, that was my main thing was I think 2004, Take Her To The Basement is where I got noticed that Eric can rhyme, but

[01:34:52] before that it was about the beat. So this is what's missing from the culture. These sit downs. I liked, um, I like the shades of lingo shit. You did a lot of shit that was just fucking dope.

[01:35:04] That, that made me look at you as, well, I looked at you as an MC from BPMD. Who was your favorite producer, MC? Yeah, I got, um, See, see now look, now look, I want to show y'all some,

[01:35:25] it take a certain type of skill to ask somebody something and they sit there and they can't answer. You stumped them. I'm dropping that. You know what? I'm going to work on that. That got to come out.

[01:35:42] That got to come out. That dad, dad got to come out. You know what I'm saying? Because it take a certain type of skill to ask somebody a question. And what I said, I'm talking about the culture. I never asked a legend like Eric Sermon about beef

[01:36:01] or anything. Who was your favorite producer, MC? And you're going to be interested to see what he said. That's the culture. So as y'all say that y'all are absolutely right. I'm going to work on that now. I got this powerful

[01:36:17] machine. So it's going to render like that. I'm going to drop some clips of that tomorrow. That has to come out and rest in peace to Eric Sermon moms, um, who passed away recently. And,

[01:36:28] um, you know, that's the bro, you know what I'm saying? Love, love the Eric Sermon, but yeah, you know what I'm saying? Um, it is what it is, man. It is what it is.

[01:36:38] Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Um, it is what it is, man. So, uh, until next time.