April 22, 2024


Hip-Hop Culture Really Shifted! Good or Bad?

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Hip-Hop Culture Really Shifted! Good or Bad?
Doggie Diamonds No Filter
Hip-Hop Culture Really Shifted! Good or Bad?

Apr 22 2024 | 00:57:25


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Join Doggie Diamonds No Filter a hip-hop aficionados on a thought-provoking exploration of the transformative shift in hip-hop culture from traditional DJs to online streamers. From the legendary turntablists who laid the groundwork to the rise of digital platforms, we dissect how this evolution has reshaped the essence of hip-hop. With Doggie Diamonds No Filter leading the conversation, we delve into the impact on creativity, authenticity, and community engagement. From the days of vinyl to the era of streaming, we weigh the pros and cons, discussing whether this change represents progress or poses challenges for hip-hop's future. Tune in for an in-depth analysis of the cultural implications and the ongoing debate: Is the transition from DJs to streamers a boon or a bane for hip-hop culture?

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: So what I wanted to discuss really. [00:00:02] Speaker B: Really quick, because I don't have, well. [00:00:06] Speaker A: I'm not on my YouTube right now, and I haven't done my audio podcast in a while. [00:00:10] Speaker B: I've actually fell back from, like, all. [00:00:13] Speaker A: Media and all, you know, creating, well, working on this music stuff. But besides that, I, you know, I kind of fell back from a lot. [00:00:21] Speaker B: Of stuff that I was doing, what. [00:00:23] Speaker A: I was working on as far as YouTube and podcasts, and I just needed time to take a break because I've been doing the same thing for a very, very long time, and it's yielded. [00:00:32] Speaker B: A lot of benefits, but it also. [00:00:35] Speaker A: Took up a lot of my life, and I wanted to see what life was like when I wasn't in the creative space every day of always wanting to create, always feeling like I gotta create, always feeling like I gotta make something happen, do this, do that. [00:00:49] Speaker B: I wanted to see what that was like, and I guess seeing what it. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Was like, and it's kind of cool. And then I'm just sitting, you know, I just. I didn't even go to the gym. [00:01:00] Speaker B: For, like, 40 something days, didn't do. [00:01:04] Speaker A: My podcast, as y'all know, didn't do anything for a while. And then I was like, well, this is how bum ass niggas live. That was the part that bothered me for the most part. But other than that, I was just really, really chilling and just recalibrating and. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Just figuring out, you know, what my. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Next steps and my next course of action was gonna be. [00:01:24] Speaker B: And I got some stuff that I, you know, I got some direction that I'm. [00:01:29] Speaker A: That I'm going in. [00:01:29] Speaker B: So, you know, that's. [00:01:31] Speaker A: That's what's happening with me. [00:01:33] Speaker B: But, um, I wanted to say, let's. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Talk about how to shift in the culture. Sometimes my tweets are misinterpreted. A female once told me before I speak in parables, and they kind of, like, don't understand me sometimes. [00:01:48] Speaker C: And I. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Don'T know if I want to be understood. I think sometimes I talk as if everybody watches me and understand my mental state, my temperament, and how I speak. So I've. Sometimes I say stuff, and maybe I'm not in depth, but sometimes we think of people who's gonna pick up what. [00:02:04] Speaker B: I'm putting down, but I don't like. [00:02:07] Speaker A: To talk to everybody like they're dumb. So I just be figuring. People be knowing what I'm talking about. Then I realized sometimes people don't get it. [00:02:15] Speaker B: So that's why a lot of people. [00:02:16] Speaker A: Want to chime in and say this, that, and the third, or, you know, they want to have a response. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Most of the time, I'm starting to. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Realize people want to have a response. People want to say something back to. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Me, you know, and have their opinion. [00:02:34] Speaker A: And sometimes they're even agreeing with me, but they think they're not agreeing with me. They think they're saying opposite, but they just really didn't understand what I'm saying. Sometimes that could be a little frustrating. Sometimes people, you know, say their opinion, I respond. Sometimes people say stupid shit, and I block them. No, first I kick them in the ass first, and then I block them. [00:02:53] Speaker B: Which I like to do because you. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Be having people like, you can't. Don't come at me if you got some weird avatar. Don't come at me if you got the avatar of another rapper. Don't come at me. Pause, pause. No, no, puff. [00:03:05] Speaker C: Don't. [00:03:05] Speaker A: Don't say nothing to me. Let's just say it. Because we can't even say come back. We can't even say certain shit no more. The game is so twisted. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Don't say nothing to me if you. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Got a weird ass avatar. I'm surprised not more people are joining. Is this, like, private or something? [00:03:21] Speaker B: I'm confused, I guess this is. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Is this private? I don't even know if this is public. [00:03:30] Speaker B: I don't even know how to make this. [00:03:31] Speaker A: Cause people would have joined by now. So I don't know how to make this thing work. I don't know if this is private or public. I don't know how to make this thing work. [00:03:44] Speaker B: But for the most part, um, you know, when I tweet stuff and I. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Say stuff, I try to say sometimes I'm bullshit, and sometimes it's just like, to talk shit. But for the most part, I like. [00:03:56] Speaker B: To say things that's cultural and just give people, um, you know, stuff that's. [00:04:06] Speaker A: About the culture that they might not have known or they might know or whatever the case may be. So that's a lot of times I do that culturally, I try to do that a lot. You know, just make sure people understand certain things. Because there's a lot of misinformation. It's a lot of regurgitated information, and there's a lot of things that people were not there for, but they speak as if they were there. [00:04:32] Speaker B: And it's misinformation. [00:04:33] Speaker A: The misinformation travels faster than the truth. And when we dealing with hip hop and hip hop culture, so much shit. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Is misinformation that it just spreads. And I'd be like, yo, that's not. [00:04:45] Speaker A: How that happened or that's not what happened. And people really don't care because the truth is more entertaining than a lie. And I find myself lately like defending people that I don't want to defend and defending or going at hip hop. [00:05:01] Speaker B: Takes, that's just not the truth, not opinion. But people are stating things as truth. [00:05:06] Speaker A: And a lot of stuff is not truth when it comes to hip hop. So when I'm saying the culture shifted, I did a tweet about academics getting a diss record before flex. That wasn't to slight academics and many people misinterpreted. So I got a lot of people saying, yo, hip hop is hip hop, radio is dead, flex is old. Yo, y'all niggas stuck in the 2000. That's not what I was saying. The point I was making was I never seen a time in hip hop culture that I never seen a point. [00:05:40] Speaker B: In hip hop culture when somebody where somebody would just. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Give academics a record, opposed to giving. [00:06:01] Speaker B: Flex a record based. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Off of Flex being an actual dj, and somebody left a comment and that was their opinion. But you know, academics got the record in real time and all that. I'm like, flex can get the record in real time and it had nothing to do with it. That's why I said the culture has shifted. Because at one point you wanted to hear stuff on Flex. At one point when Flex got it, it was big. And it's not like that anymore now it's the streamers. Because for the most part, although academics said his native name is DJ academics, shit, I might be more of a DJ than him. Put me in front of turntables and I'm gonna show you what I could do. Because that's my foundation in this culture as a DJ. So although his name is DJ Academics, I never saw him on turntables. So DJ academic shit, I could say I'm $6 million man and I could jump up, build. I could say I'm superman, doggy diamonds and I can fly but if you ain't never seen me fly, I'm just talking. [00:06:59] Speaker B: Get what I'm saying? [00:07:00] Speaker A: So that's why I said what I said about DJ academics getting a record before Flex. Because streaming streamers have more of an influence than actual dj's these days. And that's for your perception to figure out if that's good or bad. That's not for me to say that that's good or bad. That's not what I was saying. That's not what I wanted to say. That's not what I was trying to say. So people misinterpreted me, saying, academics got the records before flex, and then you got. You dumbass motherfuckers. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Not my listeners right now, but dumbass. [00:07:35] Speaker A: People say, oh, flex is old. And all that shit. Y'all gotta stop with that old and young shit, because old is the age. [00:07:42] Speaker B: But when we dealing with hip hop, right? [00:07:45] Speaker A: Cause everybody loves hip hop. Everybody wanna talk about hip hop all fucking day. Hip hop this, hip hop that. Like nothing else in the world exists but hip hop to black people right now, right? Niggas don't give a fuck about credit scores. Niggas don't give a fuck about taking a garbage out. They wake up, eat, sleep, breathe. Fuck hip hop. Everything is hip hop. Hip hop this, hip hop that. Nobody talk about anything else but hip hop, right? What I'm saying is, if we dealing with hip hop and we dealing with people who are elders. Flex is an elder. Whether you like his politic or whatever, or not. [00:08:18] Speaker C: He. [00:08:18] Speaker A: He still put on in the dj game, right? So what I was saying was, damn, flex don't even get the records, is going to academics. [00:08:25] Speaker B: The shit shifted. So is that good or bad? [00:08:30] Speaker A: Because as much as you want to say flex is old, flexing shit, blah. [00:08:36] Speaker B: Blah, blah, blah, at least he is a dj, right? [00:08:41] Speaker A: He's a DJ. [00:08:43] Speaker B: I want to defend that point. [00:08:45] Speaker C: Why? [00:08:45] Speaker B: Because I seen that man on turntables. [00:08:47] Speaker A: So as we say, flex don't matter. Flex is old. Flex ain't relevant. Okay, so I'm glad that you said that. So a DJ in hip hop culture. [00:08:57] Speaker B: Is not relevant because the streamer is. [00:09:00] Speaker A: Okay, so what happens next week where. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Academics don't get the record no more? [00:09:07] Speaker A: Because flex, academics took over for flex. [00:09:11] Speaker B: Now, what happens next week if Paris Hilton get the record before everybody was, by your standards, by, y'all say, oh, or what's the. [00:09:24] Speaker A: What's the young, young lady who'll be interviewing people in the bed now? [00:09:29] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Let's not say Paris Hilton. That's. That's kind of out the game. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Let's say next week, this young lady who took funny Marco swag, she gets the records. [00:09:40] Speaker A: She gets the dis records. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Now y'all gonna be saying, why did. [00:09:44] Speaker A: Y'All give her the dis record? [00:09:45] Speaker B: Why y'all didn't give it to academics? Well, why give it to academics? [00:09:49] Speaker A: She could be the next big thing. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Y'all said that flex ain't relevant no more. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Radio ain't relevant. What happens when y'all wanna say, or somebody decides that academics is not relevant, and you want to give it to the young lady who'll be interviewing people in the bed? [00:10:05] Speaker C: Who. [00:10:05] Speaker A: Swaggy Jack. Funny, Marco. [00:10:07] Speaker B: You see how that works? [00:10:08] Speaker A: So you gotta be careful who you qualify and disqualify. Because who's making up the qualifications and who's disqualifying people? So if you disqualify flex, who's an actual DJ? For somebody who says they're a DJ but not a DJ, and that's a great streamer. Great at what they do. I'm not saying that what he does, he's bad at. [00:10:32] Speaker C: Or. [00:10:32] Speaker A: What am I saying? What he does, he shouldn't be doing. But I'm saying you're disqualifying an actual DJ for somebody who says he's a DJ, who's a streamer. What happens next week if somebody decides we no longer like you as a streamer? We disqualified a DJ. Now we want to give it to the young lady that interviews people in the bed. Now she's going to break this records. [00:10:59] Speaker B: You just fucked up hip hop because. [00:11:02] Speaker A: You took it out of the hands. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Of a DJ to give it to. [00:11:06] Speaker A: Somebody who reports hip hop. [00:11:08] Speaker C: Right. [00:11:09] Speaker B: But not a DJ to somebody who swagger jacked. Funny Marco. That's what y'all did. So, academics getting a record, it's cool. [00:11:22] Speaker C: It's cool. [00:11:24] Speaker B: But don't discredit flexibility while giving it to academics. [00:11:28] Speaker A: That's all I was saying. Maybe you won't give it to flex. Give it to a DJ around the country. [00:11:33] Speaker B: It ain't got to be flex, but. [00:11:35] Speaker A: Give it to another DJ around the country. [00:11:38] Speaker B: That was just my. [00:11:39] Speaker A: That was what I was saying. But people are not going to say. People are not going to understand. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Because some of these people who like. [00:11:48] Speaker A: To debate respectfully and not even in. [00:11:51] Speaker B: This country, seriously, they have no clue. [00:11:54] Speaker A: What'S going on in America. [00:11:55] Speaker B: They know about America from the Internet. They're not in America. [00:12:02] Speaker A: So they think America is Instagram. [00:12:06] Speaker B: They think America is Twitter, rather x, aka Twitter. [00:12:12] Speaker A: They think America is YouTube and podcasts. And they're unaware that a lot of shit that they see. People are running plays, people are sitting together, conjuring up ideas for. Let's all go viral off this. So when somebody like myself like to speak, and I speak truth into power was really going on into the culture. Cause I'm not no fucking pussy for front last nigga. They don't understand that these niggas is over here lying, but they conspired together and lied. I'm not saying that's what's happening in the beef. I'm just saying that's what happens a lot of time. So the culture shifted in that way. [00:12:48] Speaker B: Where it could be a good or a bad thing, depending on who's shifting. [00:12:53] Speaker A: It and where it shift. Because once you start disqualifying people from. [00:12:57] Speaker B: The culture for people who's in the culture, then you can start giving it. [00:13:05] Speaker A: To people who's not in the culture based off their numbers, their attention, and all of that. So it could get a little dangerous. [00:13:12] Speaker B: So I can move from that now. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Reason why I qualify, Joe button, it's hip hop media, not cause he has a pod. I don't even like the word pod. I'm gonna just be real with y'all. I can't stand that fucking word. I will never, you will never hear me say pod. I just don't like the word when you talk to me. Please don't address my shit as a pod. I don't do pods. [00:13:35] Speaker B: I do podcasts, I do commentary. [00:13:39] Speaker A: I do great thoughts. And we know, according to me, I try to put my great mind out there. Sometimes I say shit in jest, sometimes I just straight up bullshit. [00:13:49] Speaker B: But for the most part, I'm not. [00:13:51] Speaker A: With the clown buffoon shit. That just ain't my thing. You know what I'm saying? [00:13:54] Speaker B: So, reason why I qualified. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Joe Button. Joe Button been in hip hop media for a lot longer than people understand. See, people just think he started doing. [00:14:03] Speaker B: A pod and with Rory and Mal. [00:14:06] Speaker A: And now he has his crew now. No, Joe Button hosts hot hot 97. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Morning show for a while, and that's years back. [00:14:17] Speaker A: Joe Button also was the first artist. [00:14:20] Speaker B: That I ever saw streaming that shit. [00:14:24] Speaker A: That niggas is doing now. Joe Button was doing that shit 15 years ago. [00:14:28] Speaker B: He was on you stream. [00:14:29] Speaker A: He used to sit there and play cards and do shit. And you know, when Joe Button got. [00:14:36] Speaker B: Into the incident with Raekwon, he was on you stream. Look how long ago that was. [00:14:46] Speaker A: So what we're into now, what we're doing now. He kind of was ahead of the curve with radio. Podcasting, very, very similar. Podcasting could be a little bit more direct, but you got Talk radio, which is nothing but podcasting. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Podcast. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Listen. Podcasting is only called podcasts because they was taking the audio format and putting it in the ipod. [00:15:09] Speaker B: That's why it's called podcasting. It was in the iPod. [00:15:15] Speaker A: It was a format that was made for iPod. [00:15:18] Speaker B: That's why it's called podcasting. [00:15:21] Speaker C: That's it. [00:15:22] Speaker A: It's really just talk radio. [00:15:24] Speaker B: That's all it really is. It's just a specific format that was. [00:15:29] Speaker A: For these new podcasts that we had. [00:15:33] Speaker B: I mean, these new iPods that we. [00:15:35] Speaker A: Had that we was putting all our MP3 s in where we was downloading from iTunes and putting it in here. And these were the new devices that. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Took over CDs and took over tape. [00:15:45] Speaker A: Players and took over CD players. Ipods took that over. So now people wanted to hear talk. [00:15:52] Speaker B: Radio on the ipod. [00:15:54] Speaker A: So then people started making podcasts strictly for that device. So that's where the word podcasting comes from. It's all an apple thing. That's why, you know, it was called ipod. [00:16:06] Speaker B: So Joe Button also was one of. [00:16:09] Speaker A: The first ones to do what's, you know, looked at as reality tv. Cause he had a, he had a. [00:16:17] Speaker B: YouTube called Jia 21. It was spelled Goeh 21, if I'm not mistaken. [00:16:27] Speaker A: But on there, he should like show. [00:16:30] Speaker B: His day to day on his YouTube. [00:16:34] Speaker A: But also he featured him and this girl that he was dealing with that had a big ass that everybody was looking at named Tahiri. [00:16:43] Speaker B: And we were tuning in for this. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Girl with this big ass because that was the first time. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Pre Bbl that. [00:16:52] Speaker A: We seen a woman that had the ass and the legs and all that on a consistent basis and getting to know her personality. [00:17:00] Speaker C: So he had like a reality. [00:17:02] Speaker A: He had loving hip hop before loving hip hop. [00:17:05] Speaker B: So he pioneered a lot of stuff. So when I see Adam playing or. [00:17:10] Speaker A: Not, I don't know if he's playing. [00:17:10] Speaker B: Could be playing, say, you know, you're. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Not one of the big three in hip hop, the big three is. Is himself, academics and Vlad. [00:17:20] Speaker B: See, for the culture, I gotta say that's subjective. [00:17:26] Speaker A: And I gotta say, yo, Joe button. [00:17:28] Speaker B: Pioneered a lot of shit. So how do you omit him from being a pioneer? [00:17:36] Speaker A: That's, you know, so it's the thing that I tweeted about, flex and academic, it carries the same thing. Somebody who pioneered certain shit. We can't just say, oh, I'm this, you're not that. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Because my numbers and all that. Because shit, you know, numbers, numbers mean a lot now, but numbers didn't really matter to. [00:18:02] Speaker C: Tupac. [00:18:03] Speaker A: When Tupac was saying, we sell more records than y'all, that's when people started paying attention to the record sales. Before that, we just liked the music. Because if we gonna deal with record sales, ill matic, one of the greatest albums ever, didn't sell a lot. Reasonable doubt didn't sell a lot. Brand new being you know, it was a point in time in hip hop where bootlegging was heavy. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Bootlegging was heavy. [00:18:26] Speaker A: You had dudes on the street with bootleg. So numbers never really mattered when it came to hip hop greatness because some of the greatest albums didn't sell in a new era. When people started really selling records after, like, we're not going to talk about vanilla Ice and hammer and all that shit. That was kind of like pop hip hop. That was like hip hop, but good. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Hip hop that we love historically never. [00:18:54] Speaker A: Sold like 5 million and stuff like that. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Like, it was unheard of for that to happen. So when the west coast was doing that shit, selling 2 million and Warren. [00:19:04] Speaker A: G. 2 million and 3 million in the chronic 5 million and doggy style ten, you know, do these albums doing. [00:19:11] Speaker B: This, that was unheard of. [00:19:14] Speaker A: So people started really paying attention to numbers. Now that's all they pay attention to. So it doesn't even matter if it's good or bad. See, just because you have numbers, that don't mean people like you. [00:19:28] Speaker B: I think we getting it fucked up. [00:19:31] Speaker A: I think we think that because a person has certain numbers, they're liked or they're respected or they even wanted. [00:19:38] Speaker B: That doesn't mean that. That just mean some people tune in for stupid shit. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Some people tune in to tell you how much of a piece of shit you are. Some people tune in because they can't stand you. It's all interchangeable. [00:19:53] Speaker B: But I think when we start gauging. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Numbers with good. [00:19:59] Speaker B: That'S subjective. [00:20:02] Speaker A: But now we're just saying I got the number, so that means I'm this. No, I really don't. [00:20:08] Speaker B: It really don't. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Because when you start getting into numbers, you start realizing how numbers could be manipulated. That's when shit start hitting different. When you start learning about bots and. [00:20:20] Speaker B: You start learning about different AI tools that people are using different javascripts that. [00:20:27] Speaker A: People are using to get these numbers, how people can purchase numbers, how people can buy numbers, how people can. Everything is for sale. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Remember cares? [00:20:39] Speaker A: One made a song called the pussy is free, but the crack call money. Now the pussy ain't even free no more. Well it's free for me, but I'm. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Just saying nothing is free anymore. [00:20:50] Speaker A: Everything costs. [00:20:52] Speaker B: So in order to look the part, you can purchase it. Now when we start talking numbers and. [00:21:00] Speaker A: We start saying I'm number one based. [00:21:02] Speaker B: Off of numbers, that's trouble because numbers. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Doesn'T, don't mean you good because you could purchase the numbers, but who has time to investigate whether numbers was purchased or not like that. [00:21:16] Speaker B: And powerful pound and we gonna talk. [00:21:20] Speaker A: About interviews and hip hop culture. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Some of these guys with big numbers are not number one on nobody's list. [00:21:29] Speaker A: As far as great interviewers or great content. [00:21:33] Speaker B: It's just that they have capital to pay. [00:21:38] Speaker A: That was another thing, a tweet that. [00:21:40] Speaker B: I made maybe last year about paid interviews. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Many people are getting paid to do interviews. So as you see, damn, he got this one. He got this one on his platform. He got this one on his platform. Damn, he's interviewing everybody. See, when I started doing interviews, it was people respected my interview style, they respected my platform and they respected me, so they would grant me an interview. Now nobody has to respect my interview style. They don't have to respect me or respect my platform. Now, I could just give them a couple of dollars. [00:22:12] Speaker B: That shifted the culture as well, because. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Now as people are getting paid for. [00:22:18] Speaker B: Interviews, now they have to give the. [00:22:22] Speaker A: Person that's interviewing them a return on their investment. So now you starting to see people say, I'll land this crazy shit. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Whether they was there or not there. [00:22:31] Speaker A: Whether they know or don't know, they just going to give them a moment because now you can get your views back. So you made the money back that you paid me. That's called an ROI, return on investment. So if I give you $400 for. [00:22:45] Speaker B: An interview, you're going to at least. [00:22:48] Speaker A: Need to get me 100,000 to 200,000 views. So you can't give me that rinky dink shit. You're going to have to say something that's so deep that I'm going to go viral. And we could clip this up and then I could make my money back so I could pay you. So it becomes a partnership. And that's been going on for a while. It's not new. It's been going on for a pretty long time. And you have people like Charleston who admit he get paid for interviews. So if he's getting paid, Boosie said he gets paid. Many people said he getting paid. [00:23:18] Speaker B: So if they're getting paid, if they're. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Saying stuff that's not going viral, if they're saying stuff that's not garnering views, will they still continue to get paid? [00:23:30] Speaker B: No. So that's where you get these crazy. [00:23:33] Speaker A: Ass takes in this shit, because people are attempting to go viral. It's not anything that's organic. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Because if somebody said to you, name. [00:23:46] Speaker A: A rapper you want to sit in the room with and get game from and hear their opinion, you're not going. [00:23:51] Speaker B: To pick boosie, it's just the truth. Respectfully. [00:23:54] Speaker A: And I ain't to disrespect him. But you're not going to pick him up. I don't even know if he'll be on your fucking list. [00:24:03] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:24:03] Speaker A: If he would be on your list. But when it comes to certain topics, you might like his opinion. You know what I'm saying? Some of the things boosie said, in. [00:24:11] Speaker B: Certain instances, it was. [00:24:13] Speaker A: It was. I got it, I understood it. But then once you go viral and once it becomes a business, now you think you qualified to talk about any and everything. And one of the things we're never qualified to talk about is shit that we don't know about. See, me, I like to say I don't know. [00:24:33] Speaker B: And when I know, when I don't. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Know and I think I don't need to know, that makes me now give a fuck. [00:24:37] Speaker B: So I don't even want to talk about that. So the culture has shifted to where. [00:24:42] Speaker A: It was a particular point. And that's why I'm not on a platform with certain. Well, certain people's not on my platform anymore, why I block certain people, why I don't talk to certain people, because they not qualified. And somewhere they got it fucked up and thought they was qualified. Some people thought they was qualified because they were sitting with me. Some people thought they was qualified because, um, I conversed with them. Some people thought they was qualified because. [00:25:09] Speaker B: I might have gave them a little bit of knowledge, and then they run. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Off with shit like they qualify. But remember, I'm the individual. Like a Joe button, like others that I'm actually a creative person. I actually know how to make a beat. I actually know how to, to draw. I actually know how to do graphics. I know how to edit. I know how to do shit. So I'm quiet. And I've been around the greats. I was there. [00:25:30] Speaker B: I was there. I'm not a spectator. I was there. I contributed to a lot. And not in even media, even some. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Of the songs you listen to, I was there. [00:25:42] Speaker B: So that's what the point that I. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Speak from, that's the space I speak from. So now we letting people who never made a beat, who never rapped, who can't edit, who can't draw, who can't do graphics, who can't film, who not even articulate, or don't speak well, or they just downright ugly in their face, just talk, talk and trash everything. That's when the culture has shifted. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Because now the people who create suffer. Because. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Hold on. [00:26:12] Speaker C: Here it is. [00:26:13] Speaker A: I'm busting my brain for these raps. [00:26:15] Speaker C: Here it is. [00:26:15] Speaker A: I might be digging in the crate for these records. Here it is. I might have came up with this concept, and I got a non person who don't know how to do shit. Just say, hey, that's trash. That's bullshit. [00:26:26] Speaker C: How. [00:26:27] Speaker A: What are you basing that off of? What do you know how to do? So sometimes you might have seen my tweet saying to people, what do you do again? [00:26:35] Speaker B: What do you do again? [00:26:37] Speaker A: Because you're very opinionated for somebody that don't know how to do what's being done. [00:26:43] Speaker B: For example, if it's two. [00:26:44] Speaker A: If it's two electricians talking, I'm not gonna walk and say, hey, man, I. [00:26:49] Speaker B: Heard the new true wire. [00:26:51] Speaker A: No, I'm going to shut the fuck up. And I love electronics. [00:26:57] Speaker B: I got like, damn, I might have. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Like, 30, $40,000 worth of electronics. [00:27:03] Speaker C: Shit. [00:27:03] Speaker A: More than that, electronics. [00:27:06] Speaker B: But when electronics is talking, and that's. [00:27:08] Speaker A: Their field of expertise. [00:27:09] Speaker B: As much as I love electronics, I. [00:27:13] Speaker A: Only know how to push the button on and off. I might be able to program it, but the wiring, the soldering, and see how I know them words. [00:27:21] Speaker B: Soldering, the wiring, the neutral, the hot and the cold. Yeah, those are buzzwords. [00:27:28] Speaker A: That was that I'm regurgitating because I. [00:27:30] Speaker B: Heard those, but I don't know those. So when these two experts is talking. [00:27:36] Speaker A: About electricity and wiring and sodering, I'm going to shut up. And I find that in this culture that we in, you got people using buzzwords so much that they're trying to tell me, a person who was in these studio sessions, what goes on, how it go on, who does? [00:27:57] Speaker B: And I'm like, yo, where was you. [00:27:59] Speaker A: At when we was there? [00:28:00] Speaker B: No, I'm telling you. [00:28:02] Speaker A: How you telling me? [00:28:03] Speaker B: Because of regurgitation, many people who talk. [00:28:08] Speaker A: To you about hip hop have never had a record deal, never been in a record label, never had anybody say, hey, what's your Social Security number? So we could do this paperwork. They don't know about entertainment law, from law. [00:28:22] Speaker B: They don't speak legalese. [00:28:24] Speaker A: They don't know shit. Everything is, I heard or I thought or whatever. See, that's not how the world works. And that's some of the shit that hurt the culture is when everybody with an opinion gets to dictate what they think the culture is. [00:28:40] Speaker B: This shit is bigger than rap and. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Beats and all of that. [00:28:44] Speaker B: It's bigger than a lot. [00:28:47] Speaker A: It's about. And to me, that's the small, minute part, because creativity is creativity. Shit, a motherfucker could bang on the pot and everybody could love it, right? My thing is, okay, who owns this shit? [00:28:59] Speaker B: How do we get our full get. [00:29:03] Speaker A: Back for our art? [00:29:05] Speaker B: That's it. [00:29:06] Speaker A: Shit, if a motherfucker could sit there with an idea and paint two twigs. [00:29:09] Speaker B: On a damn canvas and sell that. [00:29:13] Speaker A: Shit for 10 million, well, I want to know how I could get some money for programming these drums. Cause these drums ain't like the drums that everybody's doing. This ain't like this. [00:29:23] Speaker B: I worked hard at this. So now it became the people who. [00:29:27] Speaker A: Work hard to the people who don't work hard. And it don't matter if you work hard or not. Cause I said that shit ain't shit. But as for me, I'm the head. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Buyer and target, but I get to get on social media and dictate and. [00:29:40] Speaker A: Troll my way into saying, what ain't shit, or I'm in fucking Nigeria right now. And I barely could speak English and shit like that. [00:29:49] Speaker B: And my dad was one of the. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Motherfuckers sending out the scam emails. But right now, I'm telling you, this one ain't shit, and that ain't shit. And fuck you and all this shit. And that's what this shit became. [00:30:02] Speaker B: So it was a point where it. [00:30:05] Speaker A: Was people gatekeeping, and it was fucked up as it was. At least it was some type of regulation of. Hold on, hold on, hold on. [00:30:11] Speaker B: Who the fuck are you again? Nah, shut the fuck up. Let's say you work your way up. [00:30:18] Speaker A: I wasn't never sanctioned by nobody. [00:30:21] Speaker B: I never got a cosign. Never. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Never. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Nobody ever said, hey, we had a. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Time in hip hop culture where you. [00:30:28] Speaker B: Had the blog era. Many people don't even know about the blog era. It was a point where the blogs ran hip hop, not these videos that. [00:30:36] Speaker A: They do on YouTube, and say, I'm about to do a blog. Because a blog is written. It's called a vlog. This is how fucked up they are. They don't even know the difference between. [00:30:45] Speaker B: A blog and a vlog when it's on video. [00:30:48] Speaker A: The v and vlog is for video. [00:30:50] Speaker B: It's a video blog. [00:30:53] Speaker A: So instead of saying blog, you say vlog. So they do blog. They do blogs on video and Ama, they say, yeah, I'm about to do this blog real quick. [00:31:02] Speaker B: But they ain't writing shit when it's called a vlog. But I don't say no. [00:31:08] Speaker A: I just sit back and just be. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Like, yo, man, whatever. Because at this point in my life. [00:31:12] Speaker A: At this stage in my life, I ain't trying to edify nobody. I ain't trying to correct nobody. This shit is in shambles. This shit is fucked up. When you say something, you a hater. People say, you jaded, you bitter, you're angry, you're mad. And I'm like, how? I look better than all y'all niggas. [00:31:27] Speaker B: If we're judging that standard, so what am I? [00:31:30] Speaker A: Jaded and bitter? I'm just trying to keep the shit pure, keep it to where we learn it and see me being who I am. I'm fortunate to sit on the phone with hip hop legends, the people that. [00:31:44] Speaker B: People think are legendary. [00:31:46] Speaker A: We sit there and we converse for a while. [00:31:49] Speaker B: So I could call easy mobi, I could call doctor, period. I could call MC eight, I could. [00:31:54] Speaker A: Call different people and just talk to them. [00:31:57] Speaker B: And we're having talks. [00:31:58] Speaker A: That motherfucker, if you was a flyer on the wall, it would blow your mind. But everything is not for everybody, and not even that. We're talking bad about anybody but the fucking information that they give me. Sometimes I'm like, holy shit. I never looked at it like that. [00:32:11] Speaker B: I never thought that. But now I got people who never. [00:32:14] Speaker A: Had these conversations, never even heard these. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Conversations, telling me, telling me about the culture. So the shit is definitely shifted. It shifted to knowers versus popularity. [00:32:34] Speaker C: Because. [00:32:34] Speaker A: I could go out there and fucking smash somebody in the face with a piece. I could of be known. Listen, I could be known for running. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Around smashing pies and people just doing. [00:32:45] Speaker A: Some straight up clown buffoon shit. [00:32:48] Speaker B: I could be known for that. [00:32:50] Speaker A: And from smashing people in the face with pies, gain the audience popularity and then convert that into. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Now I'm a hip hop expert, and. [00:33:01] Speaker A: You'Re not going to say whether I am or not because I got the numbers. Shit, I got motherfuckers. 600,000 subscribers. [00:33:09] Speaker B: But 550,000 of them is. [00:33:13] Speaker A: There to see me smash people in the face with pies. [00:33:17] Speaker B: Now I'm converting the pie watchers to. [00:33:21] Speaker A: People following me and liking my personality to fucking with me for whatever I do. That's Adam 22 went from a BMX rider to just now this hip hop media platform. [00:33:33] Speaker B: But I don't see him breaking new artists. [00:33:36] Speaker A: I don't see new artists coming from his platform. Meaning that I never heard of this person before. Now I heard of them. The question, the answers, the format makes me interested. I haven't seen that. Maybe it exists. I haven't seen it, though. [00:33:51] Speaker B: I haven't seen it. [00:33:54] Speaker A: I could say that I broke new artists. I didn't know who the fuck Max B was. I didn't know who the fuck Davies was. I didn't know who Fetty Wap is. Pat Poos was at a part of his career where he was trying to reestablish himself after losing his or leaving whatever his situation was with jive. So I did his king of New York campaign. He was everywhere when I was doing that. [00:34:18] Speaker B: And that's all I could remember off cap real quick. [00:34:20] Speaker A: But it's a lot more. But that is, this is not about me. So I'm just seeing the hip hop culture shift from people who actually know and do and people who got numbers. [00:34:31] Speaker B: So we gonna judge shit off numbers. [00:34:33] Speaker A: You know what? Let's everybody act the ass. Let's everybody do whatever we gotta do to get numbers. [00:34:41] Speaker B: That don't make you an expert, because you got numbers. And that's where we at. It was a numbers game. And then you got some old people that are stubborn as shit, that don't understand the youth. Then you got the youth who say, yo, you old, so I'm not listening to you. Then you got the people in the middle. [00:35:06] Speaker A: But if you go, if you notice, and this is respectfully, I'm not trying to disrespect nobody. If you take it as disrespect, I don't care. [00:35:14] Speaker B: Most of the people who get the. [00:35:16] Speaker A: Numbers and people you watch or people. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Who crashed a lot, so you're not really watching them to see if they're. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Intelligent or anything, you. You really watching them because they gonna. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Fucking bug out eventually. [00:35:32] Speaker A: One of these streams, they gonna bug the fuck out. I mean, pay attention. I started looking at streamers, and I'm like, why? I see motherfuckers breaking shit. I see motherfuckers getting drunk. I see all types of shit. [00:35:42] Speaker B: So it's like, what the fuck am I watching again? I'm like, yo, I'm a whole grown ass man. The fuck am I doing? What am I watching this shit for? [00:35:53] Speaker A: And most of the people who go. [00:35:54] Speaker B: On the numbers partake in nigga shit. It's just the truth. It's just the truth. [00:36:02] Speaker A: I thought hip hop, when I came. [00:36:04] Speaker B: Into it, and as it evolved to. [00:36:07] Speaker A: What it is today, I thought it was all about, yo, I got these fucking dope ass beats. [00:36:14] Speaker B: I shoot these dope ass videos, I do these dope ass interviews. I mean, how many platforms is really doing that? It's just a lot of people talking. [00:36:27] Speaker A: If it ain't a Venus versus Mars platform. Where is men talking about how much they hate women, or as women talk about how much they hate men, or they jointly talk about how much they hate each other? [00:36:39] Speaker B: Or is some fucking, respectfully, somebody talking. [00:36:46] Speaker A: About hip hop, but can't tell you the difference between a fucking high hat. [00:36:51] Speaker B: And a goddamn kick drum? [00:36:53] Speaker C: Or kick. [00:36:54] Speaker A: We don't even say drum. [00:36:56] Speaker B: They don't even know. [00:36:59] Speaker A: What a triangle is. [00:37:01] Speaker B: They don't know shit. They don't know shit. They don't know what cadence mean. [00:37:09] Speaker A: They don't know. [00:37:12] Speaker B: What stanza mean. [00:37:13] Speaker A: They don't know anything. But they are hip hop talkers and. [00:37:16] Speaker B: Don'T know shit about hip hop. [00:37:20] Speaker C: Because. [00:37:20] Speaker B: Hip hop is the creativity of it and understanding the creativity. [00:37:26] Speaker A: So if you don't understand the creativity, how do you judge was good or bad? [00:37:33] Speaker B: If you don't grasp the lyrics, if. [00:37:35] Speaker A: You'Re not from a cloth, when this man or woman says something, how the fuck do you know what they talking about if it's something regional? [00:37:44] Speaker B: So when niggas was saying twelve, I. [00:37:46] Speaker A: Didn'T know what the fuck they was talking about. [00:37:48] Speaker B: I'm like, what the fuck is twelve? [00:37:51] Speaker A: I had to educate myself on what twelve was. Oh, that's the police. All right, I get it. But see, now you got niggas, respectfully, academics is jamaican. He'd be like, I finna do it. Now, what the fuck you know about Finna? [00:38:05] Speaker B: And you from Jamaica. [00:38:06] Speaker C: Jamaica? [00:38:07] Speaker A: Finn ain't jamaican. [00:38:09] Speaker B: Finna ain't jamaican. [00:38:13] Speaker A: I'm confused. [00:38:15] Speaker B: So now we got people that don't. [00:38:18] Speaker A: Know shit about hip hop that's saying. [00:38:21] Speaker B: This is dope, or he spit fire. [00:38:23] Speaker A: This is hot. [00:38:25] Speaker B: And then you find out. Then you find out people who have been doing that also have been getting. [00:38:33] Speaker A: Paid to do that. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Academics admittedly told everybody, yo, I get. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Paid to promote certain shit. [00:38:44] Speaker B: So I be saying, shit is hot. I get paid healthy and wealthy. [00:38:49] Speaker A: So is it really hot? Like myself? All right, I do a paid promo hit up doggy diamonds on Instagram, if you need me to promote any of your products. [00:38:59] Speaker B: When I listen to the record, I. [00:39:02] Speaker A: Listen to every record, and people say, yo, man, listen to me. Tell me if it's hot. You know what I say? Listen. It's not on me whether it's hot or not. I'm just gonna put it out for the people. [00:39:11] Speaker B: But a lot of times, I don't endorse the music, because what I think. [00:39:15] Speaker A: Is hot, everybody might not think it's hot, so I just put it out. What do y'all think about this? Let me know, give the person some feedback. That's what I do. But if I was paid $5,000 to put the shit out, I'm gonna say. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Man, this the next hole, man. [00:39:31] Speaker A: All I hear is goddamn coogee rap in this case. Oh, my God. You hear this? [00:39:36] Speaker B: This is little Kim. If I got paid, I don't love. [00:39:43] Speaker A: I get paid a certain amount, but I never been on the take. [00:39:47] Speaker B: You can't pay me to say anything. [00:39:50] Speaker A: You can't pay me to do anything. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Because if a person could pay you. [00:39:57] Speaker A: To say something, if a person could pay you to do something, a person also could pay you to stick they. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Dick in your ass. So where does this stop? I'm not for sale. My opinion is not for sale. [00:40:12] Speaker A: My thoughts are not for sale. [00:40:16] Speaker B: That's just me. [00:40:17] Speaker A: Maybe that's why some people will say, yeah, but you're broke, or whatever. Whatever people want to say. It's not, you know, nobody ever saw my bank account or know how I live or whatever, but that's not for me to try to prove anything. That's when you care. [00:40:31] Speaker B: I'm just saying. So, of course, you know, when you're. [00:40:36] Speaker A: Doing advertising for people, you're going to. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Say what you've been paid to say. You know, you've been paid to big it up. [00:40:47] Speaker C: So you're gonna. [00:40:48] Speaker A: You're gonna big it up. [00:40:50] Speaker B: And that becomes an again, not we. [00:40:52] Speaker A: Dealing with numbers, again. [00:40:54] Speaker B: So when we dealing with numbers and. [00:40:56] Speaker A: We saying this numbers this and this number is that, and that, that don't mean it's real or authentic. [00:41:04] Speaker B: So these numbers is kind of. These numbers is getting tricky. They've been tricky. [00:41:13] Speaker A: But when some of us say certain things and just question and just common sense shit, then you a hater, then you this, then you that. Nah, I'm not hating on nobody nothing. I'm just asking a question sometimes. [00:41:25] Speaker C: And if. [00:41:25] Speaker A: If I come in the fucking crib and I know I had protein in my shaker bottle and I didn't rinse the bottle out, and I smell something that smells like fucking farting, this motherfucker. And I know I wasn't in here farting. [00:41:41] Speaker B: I got the right to say if. [00:41:44] Speaker A: My cousin or somebody is here or one of my homies is in the crib, I say, yo, nigga, you fought. [00:41:48] Speaker C: You. [00:41:48] Speaker A: Why you blaming me for farting niggas? Cause I smell it. [00:41:52] Speaker B: But it's up to me to investigate. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Oh, nah, yo, you know what? My bad. I was wrong. It wasn't you. It was this fucking bottle right here. That smell like that. So we seeing numbers and we seeing subscribers and we seeing views and we seeing certain shit. What I want you people to know. [00:42:09] Speaker B: I ain't saying nothing else to you tonight. I told you, everything can be purchased, views, likes, live viewers, streams. Google it right now. Ain't no underground secret shit no more. This is all open. You could Google right now buying YouTube subscribers. Google it. Google buying. YouTube plays. Google it. [00:42:45] Speaker A: Google buying Spotify streams. Everything is for sale. Buying TikTok. Everything is for sale. Everything is for sale. And I'm not saying people cheated. Let's not say that. I'm just saying if it could be. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Purchased and people are buying it, then. [00:43:06] Speaker A: How we validate numbers if anybody can. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Fucking do it so the numbers don't matter if they could be bought. [00:43:14] Speaker A: Now we have to go off of your knowledge of it and your expertise in it because anybody could get the fucking numbers, right. That's what industry plants are, right? That's what, that's what an industry plan is. An industry plant. As somebody who comes out of nowhere, we never seen them, never heard them. They blue checked on every goddamn social media platform. And they being interviewed on the breakfast club. And we sitting there like, who the fuck is this? We don't know they foundation. We never heard a demo. We don't know what town they from. We don't know nothing. [00:43:47] Speaker B: They're just here now. And then we look up to, how. [00:43:50] Speaker A: The fuck you get 2 million fucking followers? [00:43:53] Speaker B: Who the fuck is this? Oh, they're from such as. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Such. [00:43:58] Speaker C: And. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Oh, man, you like? But, yeah, but I never heard nothing, not one song, anything could be bought and paid for. [00:44:07] Speaker B: I have a good female friend who. [00:44:09] Speaker A: Told me one time that, well, this. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Was under the old regime, so this. [00:44:14] Speaker A: New regime didn't do this. This wasn't x, this was Twitter. [00:44:17] Speaker B: So that's. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Let's just put that out there. Cuz sometimes I'll be saying shit and forgetting what format I'm speaking under, what platform I'm on. And then the platform kicks my ass for fucking revealing real shit. But, you know, truth tellers, there's no reward in being a truth teller, honestly. That's why. That's why YouTube is kicking my ass now. Cause I've been telling the truth. [00:44:39] Speaker B: But I had a friend who told. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Me that Twitter had reached out to her and was like, yo, do you want to be an influencer? And she was like, how? It was like, well, don't worry, we'll push you through. We'll boost your posts. We'll make sure you verify. We'll you know, just. [00:44:55] Speaker B: We just need you to tweet and. [00:44:58] Speaker A: Say certain things at certain times. Just like, I don't know if any of you have ever been to Facebook. [00:45:04] Speaker B: Facebook jail, they will tell you, we're moving you down in the feed. [00:45:11] Speaker A: We're moving your post down in the feed. [00:45:14] Speaker B: Meaning, like, many people are less likely to see you. They're telling you that you will get a message because you did this. [00:45:22] Speaker A: We're moving you down in the feed. You don't think they move people up in the feed? You don't think they move people down? [00:45:30] Speaker B: So just cause you see somebody, just because you hear somebody, that don't mean. [00:45:35] Speaker A: They even qualify to fucking talk. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Because when a person speaks a lot. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Ask them. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Just ask them, what do you know. [00:45:47] Speaker A: How to do again? So in hip hop, what do you do? What did you create? [00:45:54] Speaker B: Just ask them that. He's talking heads. [00:45:56] Speaker A: And, yo, this is whack. Or this shit is trash. Or this, this freestyle is bullshit. Or this nigga's corny. Cause you never really see them bigging anything up unless they got paid. But everything is whack, right? [00:46:08] Speaker B: Ask them, damn, how many beats you ever made? You know what quantizing is? So, yo, when you do your high. [00:46:17] Speaker A: Hat, do you fuck with the one 8th? Or do you like the one fourth? What about the one 16th? And then when you do your drums, do you put it on one 16th triple it? Or you do the one 8th? Or do you do a double time and then put it on one 8th triplet, which is really equivalent to 116? [00:46:32] Speaker B: Triple it. [00:46:33] Speaker A: But it's double time. So instead of being 16 beats per measure is eight, because the beat is fast as double, so you got to take it down. Ask people shit like that. And I bet you they be sitting there looking at you like, how the. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Fuck you talking about? Or do you know about velocity? [00:46:48] Speaker A: So when you do your hi hats, you know, the drummer doesn't hit the high hat. Like, he go, do you know about velocity? [00:46:57] Speaker B: Ask them about that. [00:46:58] Speaker A: I bet you they don't know. Ask them, do they know what masking is? [00:47:06] Speaker B: Ask them, do they know what masking is, is graphics? [00:47:11] Speaker A: Ask them, do they know what OPC is? [00:47:16] Speaker B: Ask them, do they know what tracking is in videos? Ask them, do they know what the f stop is when they had a. [00:47:24] Speaker A: Camera in the hand? [00:47:25] Speaker C: Just ask them. [00:47:28] Speaker B: Ask them how many dbs when they. [00:47:31] Speaker A: Do'S and when they on a mixing. [00:47:33] Speaker B: Board, do they like to have the mic volume at like 01:00 or 02:00. [00:47:39] Speaker A: Where'S your or do you know what a booster is? Do you know where phantom power is? I just ask them shit like that. [00:47:46] Speaker C: Just ask them simple shit. [00:47:47] Speaker B: Yo, do you got a condenser mic? What you using for your phantom power? [00:47:53] Speaker A: You know what a cloud lifter is? [00:47:57] Speaker C: Just ask them. Ask them. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Do they know what midi is? [00:48:04] Speaker B: Ask if they know what USC. [00:48:09] Speaker A: Oh, they gonna know that for the phones. But just ask them with all these creative, yo. And then you got motherfuckers calling each other creatives. [00:48:19] Speaker B: What the fuck is a creative? I'm not a creative, I'm a creator. Creative is something. How could I say this? A creative is something that you are when you're making shit. But a creator is creative, but you a creator. [00:48:44] Speaker A: But now it's like, oh, I'm a creative? [00:48:46] Speaker B: The fuck is that? [00:48:47] Speaker A: Who started? [00:48:48] Speaker B: That's like pod to me. But like I said, the language shifts. [00:48:52] Speaker A: People just start saying shit that just, that don't mean that I'm gonna shift with it, cuz. Shit that don't make no sense. [00:48:57] Speaker B: And another thing, respectfully, respectfully, I don't. [00:49:06] Speaker A: Let white people dictate my language or how I go about hip hop. [00:49:09] Speaker B: I was just being real. Shit ain't start from them. There are people who watched us create. [00:49:18] Speaker A: It, watch people make it. They just financed it. [00:49:23] Speaker B: They don't dictate the language because the. [00:49:24] Speaker A: Language come from the street. It comes from the hoods and it comes from regional. That's why I don't say finna, that's why I don't say twelve. That's why I don't say certain shit. Because that's not no Brooklyn shit. I say what we say in Brooklyn. I don't say shoot the fade. [00:49:37] Speaker B: I don't say none of that shit. [00:49:38] Speaker A: Cause that's not from my area. Regardless of what we are tribal, regional people. [00:49:46] Speaker B: And that's why hip hop at one. [00:49:47] Speaker A: Point it shifted because we used to respect each other's regions. [00:49:52] Speaker B: So I knew I was going to. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Get some midwest, some midwest shit. I knew I was going to get some funky shit from like the midwest. [00:50:02] Speaker B: I knew I was going to get some gangsta shit from the west coast. I knew Miami and all that was. [00:50:10] Speaker A: Gonna give me some good bass music. [00:50:15] Speaker B: I know the south, they was gonna. [00:50:18] Speaker A: Wanna party, but they was kinda like a gumbo. Cause you had different things in the. [00:50:23] Speaker B: South, you had gangsta in the south, you had. [00:50:28] Speaker C: Krunk. [00:50:29] Speaker A: It's really just bass music. Slow down. [00:50:31] Speaker B: Same shit and all bass music. [00:50:35] Speaker A: Crazy as this shit sound. [00:50:36] Speaker B: Base music ain't. [00:50:37] Speaker A: But motherfucking planet Rock part 900. [00:50:42] Speaker B: All that shit got planet rock beating it. That's all nother story. [00:50:46] Speaker A: But you had Luke. You had so many different. Now, where the fuck is the motherfucker from? You listen to their music, you'd be like, where the fuck this nigga from? [00:50:54] Speaker B: You be like, yo, then they go from Pennsylvania. [00:50:57] Speaker A: Pennsylvania. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Why the fuck he saying those words? Ain't that what they say in this place? [00:51:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:04] Speaker B: Yo, this is just where we are. [00:51:07] Speaker A: So I realized a lot of shit shifted. [00:51:10] Speaker B: And is it good or bad? I don't know. [00:51:12] Speaker A: You could. [00:51:13] Speaker B: You know, to me, it could be. [00:51:16] Speaker A: Good and bad, but sometimes, you know, that's the duality of stuff. [00:51:20] Speaker B: But to me, sometimes it's bad when the real people who really, really put down shit get omitted from it for. [00:51:29] Speaker A: New styles and new types. So we get rid of flex, replace them with academics, find. [00:51:34] Speaker B: And then now we gonna. [00:51:36] Speaker A: Eventually, they're gonna replace academics. Because remember, when you sit a person in the seat, you also could take. [00:51:42] Speaker B: The seat from them. Always remember that. You could take the seat from him. You see the funny Marco dude was. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Doing what he was doing. I guess the little caucasian girl was his understudy. And then she just took his shit. [00:52:01] Speaker B: She just took his shit. [00:52:04] Speaker A: That's just where we at, you know? [00:52:07] Speaker C: But we just gotta. [00:52:08] Speaker A: You know, if you really care, cuz, y'all hip hop. Hip hop, hip hop. [00:52:12] Speaker C: Hip. [00:52:12] Speaker A: All fucking day on my timeline. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Hip hop. [00:52:15] Speaker A: People ask me question, hip. I'll be like, you listen, man. I'm working on my fucking credit score. [00:52:20] Speaker B: I got shit that I'm doing. [00:52:22] Speaker A: I got shit that I'm working on that doesn't evolve. Hip hop, like, called real life. Like, I went food shopping today and shit. [00:52:28] Speaker B: I needed some fucking bananas. [00:52:30] Speaker A: I bought a smoothie that I didn't like the flavor. I'm never getting that shit again. Like, I'd be dealing with real shit. [00:52:35] Speaker B: Hip hop is not real shit to me. [00:52:37] Speaker A: It's something that I listen to, something that I create, something I do. [00:52:41] Speaker B: But I also. [00:52:43] Speaker A: I'm a multi talented, multifaceted person. [00:52:48] Speaker C: So. [00:52:48] Speaker B: I got other shit going on. [00:52:51] Speaker A: When a person sitting there all day talking about hip hop this or hip hop that, I'd be like, the fuck? You don't do nothing else do you. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Cook, nigga, the fuck do you eat? You know? [00:53:02] Speaker A: That's why I be like, what else do you do? Like, this shit just took over your fucking whole wavelength. [00:53:08] Speaker B: And your whole life, I be thinking about real shit. [00:53:11] Speaker A: Like, God damn. [00:53:12] Speaker B: How the fuck I keep getting toothpaste. [00:53:13] Speaker A: On my bathroom mirror, I gotta get some Windex. [00:53:16] Speaker B: I be thinking about shit like that. [00:53:17] Speaker A: Motherfuckers. We tell you hip hop. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Yo, listen, listen to me. Got toothpaste on my bathroom mirror. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Let me clean my mirrors and shit. [00:53:27] Speaker B: But motherfuckers will be talking about hip. [00:53:28] Speaker A: Hop and all that shit and take a picture in the dirty ass mirror. [00:53:32] Speaker B: Are you so worried about hip hop. [00:53:34] Speaker A: You start not giving a fuck about. [00:53:35] Speaker B: The shit that you should care about. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Like your life, like what you got going on, like what you're doing, what is your purpose, your goals, your aspirations? A lot of people just don't care about that. Cause they just want to be in a hip hop conversation. Now the conversation is all inclusive. [00:53:52] Speaker B: And then you got the know hows, the know it alls and the know nothings, just all talking in one thing. And now we can't tell who's who no more because of this social media. And it's in, it's, you know, I could say I'm partly responsible for fucking up on something. [00:54:15] Speaker A: I made a mistake. I made a mistake by sharing platforms with certain people who I shouldn't share my platform with, who thought because they. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Sat next to me, I said this. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Earlier because they sat next to me, that they were qualified to just start saying off the wall shit. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy, tiger. Slow the fuck down now. Now you bugging. [00:54:37] Speaker B: But see, again, them numbers are tricky. Once a motherfucker gain audience, they just start saying shit. They just start saying shit. So it's my first time doing a space. Not gonna be my last time. I'm gonna try to do this more often. [00:54:59] Speaker A: Maybe daily, maybe like the same time every day. [00:55:03] Speaker B: I don't know. But this is really it. And they're going to just want to. [00:55:09] Speaker A: Make sure y'all know doggie diamonds tv is the brand regardless. Doggie Diamonds tv, the interlude tv, Doggie diamonds tv. I'm on all streaming platforms. If you go right to the link in my bio, that's everything about me. [00:55:24] Speaker B: It's right there. [00:55:25] Speaker A: Make sure you follow me. Make sure you share this. Make sure you retweet this. If you feel like anything I ever said was informative, do not keep the information for yourself. Retweet it, share it. [00:55:38] Speaker B: I don't even give a fuck if. [00:55:40] Speaker A: You put it on your YouTube. I don't care what you do. [00:55:44] Speaker B: This is free. I don't care what you do if. [00:55:47] Speaker A: You put it on your YouTube. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Well, this one at least. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Cause I might start putting it on my YouTube eventually. [00:55:52] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. [00:55:54] Speaker A: But this one, I don't care what you do. [00:55:57] Speaker B: I don't care what you do. But, um, I'll be back soon. [00:56:00] Speaker A: I'll be on break soon. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Be looking around, May. Um, I'm still on vacation. [00:56:07] Speaker A: I'm still on break. Ain't it good when you could just take a vacation from this shit? [00:56:12] Speaker B: This is so great. Life is good. [00:56:14] Speaker A: But I thank everybody for appreciating me. Um, I do have some real, real supporters. I don't have followers. I don't have fans. [00:56:22] Speaker B: I don't have any of that. [00:56:23] Speaker A: I got supporters and everybody who's been hitting me, checking up on me, making sure I'm good, I'm great. Great spirits. Everything is cool. I can't. Oh, man, I can't complain at all. I wish, you know, if you follow me on Instagram, I debuted some new music and shit. A lot of shit that I got, that I'm working on. [00:56:43] Speaker B: A lot of shit is going on. [00:56:44] Speaker A: In a positive direction. So y'all gonna hear more from me. Just easing my way back into this shit. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Cause, um, I just needed a break. [00:56:53] Speaker A: And I took one, and I'm still on it. But I'm gonna dibble and dabble in certain stuff. So with that, man, I appreciate y'all. Y'all have a good night. [00:57:03] Speaker B: I gotta go sit in this sauna. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Real quick, but by myself, too. I got a personal sauna. [00:57:09] Speaker C: So. [00:57:10] Speaker A: From you weird, puffy thinking ass niggas. [00:57:14] Speaker B: This ain't no bathhouse. This is a personal sauna that I. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Sit in, that only one can sit in. [00:57:21] Speaker B: All right, y'all enjoy the rest of your night. [00:57:23] Speaker A: Ahala. Peace.

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